Loren Pechtel

Well, in our marrige we each have control in those areas we are superior.

paul30

The solution I like best is this.

Transplant the fertilized egg into a pro-life woman.

Let her carry the child to term, and incur all the expense and difficulty of raising it.

I promise this solution would convert many pro-lifers to pro-deathers.

dk

Paul your steel trap mind dangles by rubber like principles. Alas, your proposition would not only be extravagantly expensive but ultimately place more children under the influence of pro-life parents. Pro abortion forces put their money into public education curriculum where the children of pro-life families can be systematically indoctrinated with values from a culture of death. Its irrational to argue with pro life people because they understand human life has intrinsic value.

scigirl

I think human life has intrinsic value. That's why I'm pro-choice.

scigirl

yguy

That doesn't make sense to me. Very few women die in childbirth, but every fetus - arguably a human life - dies in an abortion.

scigirl

No I don't expect it would - but then again, none of your beliefs make any sense whatsoever to me.

The decision to bring a child into this world is a big huge one - with lots of responsibilities that come along with it. People that don't want to have children shouldn't have one.

A world of wanted children would make a world of difference.

scigirl

yguy

A fetus IS in the world, as surely as my kidneys are.

Daleth

Which is to say, not at all.

Dal

dk

dk: I don�t follow�When a mother chooses abortion she derogates the life of the child with her liberty. Liberty is a discretionary exercise of power. So the value of the child�s life depends upon the mother. If the mother chooses abortion then the child has no intrinsic value. Surely you don�t propose a dead fetus has intrinsic value.

yguy

My kidneys are not in the world? Then where are they?

If I put a ball in a box, then put that box in a closet, isn't the ball in the closet?