Loren Pechtel

Well, in our marrige we each have control in those areas we are superior.

paul30

The solution I like best is this.

Transplant the fertilized egg into a pro-life woman.

Let her carry the child to term, and incur all the expense and difficulty of raising it.

I promise this solution would convert many pro-lifers to pro-deathers.

dk

Paul your steel trap mind dangles by rubber like principles. Alas, your proposition would not only be extravagantly expensive but ultimately place more children under the influence of pro-life parents. Pro abortion forces put their money into public education curriculum where the children of pro-life families can be systematically indoctrinated with values from a culture of death. Its irrational to argue with pro life people because they understand human life has intrinsic value.

scigirl

I think human life has intrinsic value. That's why I'm pro-choice.

scigirl

yguy

That doesn't make sense to me. Very few women die in childbirth, but every fetus - arguably a human life - dies in an abortion.

scigirl

No I don't expect it would - but then again, none of your beliefs make any sense whatsoever to me.

The decision to bring a child into this world is a big huge one - with lots of responsibilities that come along with it. People that don't want to have children shouldn't have one.

A world of wanted children would make a world of difference.

scigirl

yguy

A fetus IS in the world, as surely as my kidneys are.

Daleth

Which is to say, not at all.

Dal

dk

dk: I don’t follow…When a mother chooses abortion she derogates the life of the child with her liberty. Liberty is a discretionary exercise of power. So the value of the child’s life depends upon the mother. If the mother chooses abortion then the child has no intrinsic value. Surely you don’t propose a dead fetus has intrinsic value.

yguy

My kidneys are not in the world? Then where are they?

If I put a ball in a box, then put that box in a closet, isn't the ball in the closet?