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Hazel-rah · 02-04-2005, 05:56 AM

I just need to walk down to the capitol and start smacking heads...

Anti-abortion foes target use of pill

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Under a bill filed Thursday by freshman Sen. Jim Whitehead (R-Evans), pharmacists who oppose abortion on "moral or religious" grounds and who refuse to dispense emergency contraceptive drugs would be immune from lawsuits or disciplinary action by employers.

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"We're just trying to protect some pharmacists who feel the way we do as far as having to issue the contraceptive pill — that have Christian values that want to stand up against abortion," Whitehead said.

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A Planned Parenthood fact sheet on the drugs notes that there is "considerable public confusion" over the difference between emergency contraception provided by Plan B and medical abortion provided by RU486. Reis said RU486 was administered by abortion providers, not pharmacists.

But, no, wait check this out:

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"The bill is not intended to prevent pharmacists from providing contraception, only from participating in an abortion," said Johnson, who acknowledged he was not clear on precisely how either drug worked.

ARRRRRRGGHHHHH! How do they expect to decrease abortions if they're increasing unwanted pregnancies!!!!!

And yes, I will be firing off several strongly worded letters to the AJC and my local representatives.

Thank you for listening, folks, you've been great.

MediocrityInAction · 02-04-2005, 06:46 AM

Idiots. Idiots. Idiots! Idiots! IDIOTS! IDIOTS! IDIOTS!!!!!

I don't know what cloud-cuckoo land they live in, but please order me one map of how to stay the hell away from it. Ah well, more teenage bible-belt mothers producing more bible-belt sons to go off to fight and kill new and interesting people in their teens. Only in America.

Jimmy Higgins · 02-04-2005, 06:52 AM

2/3's of all conceptions end in natural abortions. A stat I always find amazing... with respect to people who think conception is the beginning of life.

Loren Pechtel · 02-04-2005, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Hazel-rah

ARRRRRRGGHHHHH! How do they expect to decrease abortions if they're increasing unwanted pregnancies!!!!!

And yes, I will be firing off several strongly worded letters to the AJC and my local representatives.

Thank you for listening, folks, you've been great.

The fundies consider Plan B to be a form of abortion. After all, there's a chance it keeps a fertilized egg from implanting.

Loren Pechtel · 02-04-2005, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Higgins

2/3's of all conceptions end in natural abortions. A stat I always find amazing... with respect to people who think conception is the beginning of life.

God, the greatest abortionist of all.

Underseer · 02-04-2005, 08:43 AM

You're making a bad assumption, guys. You're taking the rhetoric of religious conservatives at face value and believing them when they say "We just wanna save the lives of all them little babies!"

They don't care about human life at all. That much should be apparent when you look at how they insist on treating those who are actually born, alive and breathing. This never was about "life," it's always been about denying women power over their own bodies and re-relegating them to the status of live-in domestic and baby factory. If you look at it from that perspective, the decision to ban contraceptives makes perfect sense.

Hazel-rah · 02-04-2005, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Underseer

You're making a bad assumption, guys. You're taking the rhetoric of religious conservatives at face value and believing them when they say "We just wanna save the lives of all them little babies!"

They don't care about human life at all. That much should be apparent when you look at how they insist on treating those who are actually born, alive and breathing. This never was about "life," it's always been about denying women power over their own bodies and re-relegating them to the status of live-in domestic and baby factory. If you look at it from that perspective, the decision to ban contraceptives makes perfect sense.

In my various correspondence, I have left out that accusation as it smacks of nyah-nyah. But I firmly believe it's true.

There's also the "pregnancy as punishment" angle that ties into what you said.

Anne Fidel · 02-04-2005, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Underseer

You're making a bad assumption, guys. You're taking the rhetoric of religious conservatives at face value and believing them when they say "We just wanna save the lives of all them little babies!"

They don't care about human life at all. That much should be apparent when you look at how they insist on treating those who are actually born, alive and breathing. This never was about "life," it's always been about denying women power over their own bodies and re-relegating them to the status of live-in domestic and baby factory. If you look at it from that perspective, the decision to ban contraceptives makes perfect sense.

So true. If it really was about life, pro-lifers would line up to adopt all the babies that they could possibly fit into their houses and conservatives in government would put more money into helping low-income people. They rail against abortion, and then let babies suffer from malnutrition and disease or waste away in orphanages.

Jimmy Higgins · 02-04-2005, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Enlightened

So true. If it really was about life, pro-lifers would line up to adopt all the babies that they could possibly fit into their houses and conservatives in government would put more money into helping low-income people. They rail against abortion, and then let babies suffer from malnutrition and disease or waste away in orphanages.

No new taxes! No new taxes!

Anne Fidel · 02-04-2005, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Higgins

No new taxes! No new taxes!

Ha ha! Exactly!

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02-04-2005, 06:46 AM	#2
MediocrityInAction Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: U.K. Posts: 253	Idiots. Idiots. Idiots! Idiots! IDIOTS! IDIOTS! IDIOTS!!!!! I don't know what cloud-cuckoo land they live in, but please order me one map of how to stay the hell away from it. Ah well, more teenage bible-belt mothers producing more bible-belt sons to go off to fight and kill new and interesting people in their teens. Only in America.

02-04-2005, 06:52 AM	#3
Jimmy Higgins Contributor Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Proud Citizen of Freedonia Posts: 42,473	2/3's of all conceptions end in natural abortions. A stat I always find amazing... with respect to people who think conception is the beginning of life.

02-04-2005, 08:43 AM	#6
Underseer Contributor Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago suburbs Posts: 39,172	You're making a bad assumption, guys. You're taking the rhetoric of religious conservatives at face value and believing them when they say "We just wanna save the lives of all them little babies!" They don't care about human life at all. That much should be apparent when you look at how they insist on treating those who are actually born, alive and breathing. This never was about "life," it's always been about denying women power over their own bodies and re-relegating them to the status of live-in domestic and baby factory. If you look at it from that perspective, the decision to ban contraceptives makes perfect sense.

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