Captain Pedantic

I think my opinion of the whole thing reflects ju'iblex's - that is to say, I'm also gay (and a lady) but I would rather watch two men getting it on than a man and a woman. I consider that this is because:

1) The whole "gay" thing is more important to me than what gender they are. This is probably because I'm just coming out, but I find I can more readily identify myself with a gay couple than with a straight couple (and I've tried putting myself in the position of the chap, and no, it doesn't work).

2) Like 'blex, I find the whole concept of a woman going for a man strange. I don't find it repulsive, I don't think men are physically revolting. But men and women together? Pah, that'd never work. That's just crazy talkin'

3) I always find myself disappointed that a sexy woman would rather be with a man than, for example, me. At least a straight man watching straight porn doesn't find himself excluded by his very gender.

Something I do find odd, though, is the (apparently) very male thing of actually being disgusted by gay sex. Not in the homophobic sense, but in the sense of earlier posters who say they would never be unkind to gay men and think who sleeps with who is their own business, but they find the idea of two men getting it on revolting. I say that this is an apparently male thing because it seems quite common amongst even the nicest chaps, but I have never seen any equivalent of the same thing amongst straight women. Obviously, there are homophobic women, but rarely do I come across women who claim to have nothing against gay people, but are still revolted by gay women and the whole sex thing.

I put this down to a similar thing as the whole "men don't know if another man is good-looking" business. A bit of ingrained societal machismo - "gay people are alright but I'm not gay, understand?"

vash2k3

that last part isnt true, I know a guy who was raped by a woman, AND IS PAYING FUCKING CHILD SUPPORT.

vash2k3

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I don't think you're a strange case, actually. Human sexuality can be very strange at times. For example, I don't do sodomy - it's messy, it hurts, and it requires too much preperation (lube, condoms, etc). But fellatio...that, IMO, is a LOT of fun for me, whether I'm giving or getting. A lot of people think that's strange for a bi male. But it's normal for me.

I guess my main point is that whatever works for you as an individual is what's normal for you. I can't speak "as a bi male" as I am not representative of the entire community. When you get right down to it, it really doesn't matter what many bi males/lesbians do or are attracted to. It could be that you're anomalous in the lesbian community and that I'm anomalous in the bi male community, who can say. But then again, does that really matter in any significant way?

You speak of balance. Heterosex is balanced, in its own way - both the male and female elements are present, and there is the possibility of procreation. This is not to say that homoeroticism is unbalanced - it is to say that homosex and heterosex are both balanced, but they balance on two different fulcrums.

It's a fascinating topic, all right. I don't claim to have all the answers. But it does make for what I call "chewing gum for the brain" - a logical exercise that's fun, engaging, but really doesn't produce that much.

Aw foo, I'm just sitting here rambling on, wasting a fairly boring Sunday morning. I look forward to your responses.

ju'iblex

well, when i say 'speaking as', im just giving a little background for anybody here that doesnt actually know me, i dont pretend i represent anyone.
no, but im not sure if its even relevant to this discussion.
and when i say balance, its just my own screwed up perceptions of it. Subconcious perceptions. I know hetero sex can be balanced, and completely unbalanced, just as with any relationship, however, to me its always seemed like 'woman goes on knees, man has his fun'. Not a good social construct to have picked up on, admittedly, but what happens happens. Dont ask me why, but homosex seems to me more balanced by the fact that everyone starts off with the same equipment.

screwed up? yes. am i wrong about the balance? probably to most other people. but its not something i chose rationally, its just an impression i get sometimes.
indeed

christ-on-a-stick

bi female here - and the answer to that is, HELL YES! (if I find them attractive - same as with 2 women or a male/female couple).

tronvillain

ju'iblex:
Actually, it seems to me to be "more balanced" as well, but that doesn't change the fact that I prefer hetero sex. The perception of hetero sex as "woman goes on knees, man has his fun" is not necessarily all that innacurate, at least from what I've heard from various people lately.

ju'iblex

nice to know im not insane then. i personally am still trying to figure out whether my perception shaped my sexuality, or vice versa, i havent yet come to a conclusion on that, its an intriguing problem to say the least.

Harumi

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[B]A beautiful man with another beautiful man? Oooooh! Hell yes I find it incredibly sexy. And extremely adorable.

I'm not sure what I am. I have a boyfriend who I love very much, but I can't stand seeing love being expressed between hetero couples. Now if there was a homosexual couple kissing and making out, I'd be getting my camera.

My best friend got to see a guy kiss another guy once. I was incredibly jealous for days. I still am.

tronvillain

ju'iblex:
Of course, that the perception of hetero sex as ""woman goes on knees, man has his fun" is not necessarily that innacurate doesn't mean that it's all like that. Well, most men love a blow job, but a lot of us love to return the favour ten times over (though sadly not all of us).