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Old 04-16-2003, 12:20 AM   #1
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Talking with my fiance tonight, the issue of alcohol came up. Neither of us drinks, so I'd like to hear the other side. I want to hear the case made for alcohol.

Now don't throw the futility of prohibition in my face. I'm not talking about outlawing it. I just want to know why you drink, or do not drink, or condone others drinking around you. Make your case.
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1) Alcholholic beverages are a pleasure to taste. (One of the very finest consumables in existance, in fact.)
2) Said beverages make one feel happy.
3) In small quantities, alchohol increases ones lucidity.

1 and 2 are really just my backup for premise 3 here:

Premise 1: Unless my actions impinge on the rights of others, no one has the right to force me to cease said actions. (basic tenet of human rights)
Premise 2: When no other considerations are present, It is sensible that I should act in the way that pleases me.
Premise 3: It pleases me to drink alchohol (for the reasons outlined above.)
Premise 4: when in sensible moderation, no other considerations other than my pleasure or displeasure are neccesary in the case of my drinking alchohol.

Conclusion: Alchohol.
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1) I find alcoholic beverages to be very unpleasant to taste.
2) Alcoholic beverages are known to alter one's mental state.
3) I rather like my current mental state.
4) Therefore, I do not drink.
5) Others who for some reason like to drink are free to do so to the extent that their driving remains good enough not to hit my car.

Conclusion: personally, I don't see what people see in alcohol. But that's just me.
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3) I rather like my current mental state.
A rare fellow indeed.
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Drinking equals Puke, equals smelly mess, equals nobody likes you.

Ehhh, I like a beer once in a while. But Alcohol is really the most abused drug around.

All things in moderation.
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1) Alcholholic beverages

Alchohol.
Alchohol?, Alcholholic (sp?)

Oookay, that's enough for you, cut off.
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Nobody needs to make a case for anybody else. If someone doesn't drink and doesn't want to try it, all the power to them. Other people have tried and have found it agreeable. Of course, it's bad when people drink irresponsibily. That's really all there is to it.

Personally, I enjoy the taste of a good beer or whiskey and have found a low level inebriation to be quite pleasant.
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From Black Jack, to Takila, straight with a cube of ice, Martini dry or Icy cold beer...taste was never an issue...It all went down with a connoseur's dignity... down down down...

1. Man takes a drink
2. Drink takes a Drink
3. Drink takes a Man


i soooooooo do not like being in the company of alcohols' victims... what a huge waste of taste... not to mention booooooooooooorrrrrring.
Had my share of drunken women and lust among the beer bongs... married a couple of them... Nothing sadder than adult children of alcoholics... desperately hanging on to a bag of broken glass...
Let it all go ... i wouldn't trade one second of sobriety for ten years of living in a fog...
Acid/Mushrooms/Mescaline, eating hashish ummmmmmmmmm all good and maybe again one day ... but i can live just fine without...
No Need to alter me or my surroundings.
Can't wait to see the alcohol lobbies brought to their knees like the tobacco industry...
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Old 04-16-2003, 03:39 AM   #9
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The last recluse of the working man without FEMALES. Give me a few beers with my mates and a bit of a chat to work out the problems of the world. Does wonders for my health and temper.
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1) Alcholholic beverages are a pleasure to taste. (One of the very finest consumables in existance, in fact.)
Where is the evidence? You must rephrase this.

And what is "Alcholholic"? And what is an "existance"?

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2) Said beverages make one feel happy.
Do they make one feel happy oftener than any other emotion?
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3) In small quantities, alchohol increases ones lucidity.
Where is the evidence? What are the pros and cons? Why are all these things good?

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Premise 1: Unless my actions impinge on the rights of others, no one has the right to force me to cease said actions. (basic tenet of human rights)
What evidence have you for this? Am I the only Skeptic in a forum of Infidels? I deny the minor by reason of insufficient evidence.
In addition "rights" are identical to laws. Laws are imaginary. Using laws to justify such a thing is absurd.

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Premise 2: When no other considerations are present, It is sensible that I should act in the way that pleases me.
I disagree. I would call that highly selfish.

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Premise 3: It pleases me to drink alchohol (for the reasons outlined above.)
Premise 4: when in sensible moderation, no other considerations other than my pleasure or displeasure are neccesary in the case of my drinking alchohol.

Conclusion: Alchohol.
Huh?? What does this mean? How does simply "alcohol" follow from any of this? We already know that alcohol exists.
Your argument is unsound and redundant. In the end, it is identical to saying simply, "I approve of drinking alcohol."
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