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Old 03-10-2002, 12:37 PM   #81
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<strong>I never claimed squat concerning polar bears and grizzlies. I quoted what YEC beleive.</strong>
If it as belief and you are unable to provide evidence for this belief, then it is a matter of Faith and not science. Thus your alternative truth is as baseless as geocentry.

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<strong>I beleive they are probably right, but I have stated repeatedly that I am new to creationism as a science, and am not qualified to debate their models, except in a few areas perhaps.</strong>
If you are not qualified to defend your points, DON'T BRING THEM UP! Don't expect us to excuse you from providing support for your assertions.

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<strong>Those are areas dealing with evolutionary theory, such as stating the fossil record proves evolution, which are lies.
I am here simply to expose lies.</strong>
You are doing a good job of exposing us to lies. Too bad they're of your own invention.

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<strong>I may remark on creationism, but primarily within the context of exposing an evolutionist lie.</strong>
If you use creation to expose evolutary lies, then you should be prepared to defend creation. You, however, appear to be ill-equiped to do so. Why is that?

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<strong>For instance, if a piece of data fits creationism as much as evolution, then that data cannot be said to prove evolution, and to do so is a lie.</strong>
Please, provide just ONE piece of evidence for evolution that creation can explain with as well if not better. I haven't yet noticed you doing so. Note, "god did it" is not a better explaination since there is no negative control; it can explain anything, including that we were all created last thursday with false memories.

Now, where is your fossil evidence that gizzly bears and polar bears share a common ancestor and are not separate kinds. You haven't provided any evidence for which the creation model can determine if bears constitute only one or multiple kinds. Also please answer my questions in the "Challenge to those who beleive in kinds" thread, or stop using kinds as evidence for creation.

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