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Old 07-18-2003, 11:50 AM   #41
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Masturbating can involve two people. Sex is many different things to many different people.

I think I've deciphered that you are male... are you straight or gay or is the jury still out on that one? I wasn't sure when you said you wanted to find someone like yourself, whether you meant of the same gender or same personality or both.

As far as waiting until college... I'm in university right now and I am still amazed all the time at the incredible diversity here. I knew no such thing in high school, even though I went to a rather large one.

There's one other thing to consider here... people your age have raging hormones. There's not a darn thing you can do about that but outgrow it, and I'm not sure that's even a possibility.

You seem angry with yourself for feeling attracted to a person who is not intellectually up to your standards. Perhaps you're feeling guilty about all these sexual feelings and urges that are for the moment beyond your control? It happens. It's hormones. You live through it.

Humans are very sexual beings. We are animals afterall. A person can be sexual without having sex with another person, and I tihnk that's what Mantis was referring to with his masturbation questions.

At one point you asked for references to documented cases of people living without relationships. I haven't looked for any, but I recently read statistics concerning senior men whose wives had died. A high percentage of them also died within a few years of their wife. Granted, they are old and old people do die, but they died younger than men whose wives were still alive, unless they remarried within a few years.
I'm straight.

I know why I feel what I do. That doesn't change the fact that I don't like it.
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Nobody has any of the links I asked for? That sucks.
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Old 07-18-2003, 08:37 PM   #43
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Didn't this same conversation happen with someone else around here about a year ago?

Feeling of attraction are part of your biological makeup. It's been around since long before your species has. Associating those biological phenomena with Britney Spears is as short-sighted as thinking you know everything about yourself at the age of 17.

If you don't want to engage in those things, don't. The pull will be with you until you get to be much older, unless you do something drastic to your body chemistry (maybe -- I'm not even sure if that's possible).

I think Loren mentioned a psychologist. I agree. This is not just about tank tops, and the sooner you get to the root of this strange issue you have, the sooner you can return to the human race.

Your choice, of course.
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I think Loren mentioned a psychologist. I agree. This is not just about tank tops, and the sooner you get to the root of this strange issue you have, the sooner you can return to the human race.

Your choice, of course.
I wasn't the person who originally suggested it, I was merely seconding the notion.
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Old 07-18-2003, 08:57 PM   #45
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I know it's a part of my biological makeup.

However, it bugs me, and since it is improbable I will ever be in a relationship with someone judging from myself and others, I need to find some way to deal with it.

It's like being thirsty while wading in polluted water, yet you are unable to even bend down and drink in the first place.
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Elizabeth Abbot wrote a book entitled The History of Celibacy but I haven't read it yet.

My take on the issue (I'm only an advice columnsist's stunt double):

You have every damn right to want to date someone very much like yourself. In general, shared life experiences, values, and ideas help relationships stay congenial for both parties.

Yes, most people, especially in high school, are kind of shallow and halfwitted and you won't be wanting to date them even if they look like (insert your idea of attractive here) but there's no use being angry at them, they're just people and people are like that. Now, college really will help, unless you go to BJU or something; at the bare minimum you'll be sprung from the social status reindeer games that have no doubt already catagorized you where you are now.

Also, there's no real harm in having a lust fling or two with someone you don't want to spend the rest of your life with, so long as you use protection (can't emphasize that enough) and don't give your partner any false impressions about what you're offering relationship-wise.

However, if all that is not for you (and it's not for everybody) I have a magical real-time solution for anger, lust, love and any other foolish thing you may not want to feel: sublimation.

Strong emotion is a marvelous energy source, particularly suited to fueling the creative arts and physical fitness. (If the "popular culture" of your school is anything like mine was, the idea of physical fitness may squick you, but I'm talking about taking care of yourself and staying healthy, not becoming a jock.) The key to sublimation is not focusing on your own state of mind, your early-onset maturity, your despair, whatever. Do whatever it takes to find a project so all-encompassing that it will take you entirely out of yourself. Don't just write a story; write an epic trilogy and create new languages and cultures to go with it. Don't just draw a picture; fill up a dozen sketch pads with exhaustive character studies for a graphic novel, or force yourself to do a comic strip a day every day for four years straight, including holidays. Write wanky reviews of every movie you see and every album you listen to. Code something so revolutionary and useful it will make Google look like a dumb fad. Go down in the lab and resurrect dead tissue using only the power of lightening. Whatever it takes. That way, whether or not you ever look up and find yourself with a partner (and judging by the raw numbers, it's highly improbable that you won't at some point, even if it doesn't last,) at least you'll have well-developed talents.

(By the way, I may want to snag that bit about sublimation for my advice column later on, with your permission of course.)

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I know it's a part of my biological makeup.

However, it bugs me, and since it is improbable I will ever be in a relationship with someone judging from myself and others, I need to find some way to deal with it.
You're, what, just out of your junior year in high school, in a suburb of Omaha. I know it sounds condescending, but you are too young to know what you're talking about at this point. Being intelligent does little to help with this kind of thing.

You will meet a much broader cross-section of people after high school. For now, I know it's a bit of a distraction and it can be annoying, but it's hardly a problem unique to you.


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It's like being thirsty while wading in polluted water, yet you are unable to even bend down and drink in the first place.
I suggest holding off on the kinky stuff until you get a bit more experience.
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Get over yourself already.
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I know it's a part of my biological makeup.

However, it bugs me, and since it is improbable I will ever be in a relationship with someone judging from myself and others, I need to find some way to deal with it.
The question is: Do you want to be in a relationship? How about with a woman who is your intellectual equal? A physical relationship with a beautiful woman who also is your intellectual match as well is what everyone dreams of! Do you?

With an attitude like that, I know that you will fail to be in a good relationship with woman. Trust me on that point. Women will know that you are not enthusiastic about a relationship and leave you alone.

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It's like being thirsty while wading in polluted water, yet you are unable to even bend down and drink in the first place.
How do you know the water is polluted if you haven't even smelled it or tasted it? It might just surprise you!

Come on in, the water's fine!

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You know, I'm increasingly agreeing with Daggah here...

The whole "it's part of pop culture" thing, I have to dismiss that as BULLSHIT. Get over yourself; if you have such a need to have the moral high ground over everybody else in your school, and you seriously find normal human sexuality oh-so-disgusting, go become a monk or something.

On a less negative note, you'll get over it when you collide with someone you're actually compatible with. It doesn't matter whether or not you believe it will happen, because it will whether you want it to or not.
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