dk

I have no idea what you're talking about, I don't believe the UN Code is mentioned in the Pentateuch, so I don't see how it pertains article 4 & 5. There simply is no context, link or bases for the the assertion.

dk

I'm glad you're proud of your European education, and I'm sure there are many fine schools in many places. But lets be straight, Europe can't even raise enough children to sustain its population. You guys got trouble, big trouble.
Last I heard, science can't disprove a negative meaning archaeology, a best guess science to begin with, doesn't prove anything without evidence. I might just as easily say the lack of a missing link or a coherent evolutionary tree for hominids proves evolution false. So for the time being the Bible remains the best evidence of Exodus, and I'm sure archaeology will one day add to our knowledge.

dk

Your personal bigotry makes the discussion a waste of time. What does the UN Code DoHR say about bigortry and prejudice?

Ion

Not so:

"Today, the view is that Israel emerged peacefully out of Canaan -modern-day Lebanon, southern Syria, Jordan and the West Bank of Israel- whose people are portrayed in the Bible as wicked idolatores. The Canaanites who took on a new identity as Israelites were joined by a small group of Semites from Egypt-explaining the source of the Exodus story. As they expanded their settlement, they begun to clash with neighbors, providing the historical nuggets for the conflicts recorded in Joshua and Judges.
'Scholars have known these things for a long time, but we've broken the news very gently,' said William Dever, a professor of Near Eastern archaeology and anthropology at the University of Arizona and one of America's preeminent archaeologists."

So much for the historicity of Exodus as described in the Bible:
it's a myth filled with old superstitions.

Ion

To me Ipetrich's posts come across as being researched and logical.

dk

I am unimpressed by the vivid details many scholars produce from a vacuum of data.

dk

Here’s a criticism I found that expresses my own sentiment,

Ion

It's William Dever of University of Arizona, Ze'ev Herzog of Tel Aviv University, Israel Finkelstein of Tel Aviv University, archeologist Neil Silberman, Bryant Wood director of Associates for Biblical Research in Maryland, Ron Hendel a professor of Hebrew Bible at UC Berkley, Carol Meyers a professor specializing in Biblical studies and archaeology at Duke University, who concluded that Exodus as related in the Bible is fiction, after they examined excavations from 1950s and 1960s in Kadesh Barnea where the Bible lied that the fleeing Isarelites sojourned, and produced signs of settlements starting three centuries after the Exodus was supposed to have ocurred.

lpetrich

By the arguments that dk uses, we must also take seriously the historicity of the Iliad and the Odyssey, and even the existence of the deities of Mt. Olympus, since there is at least as much archeological evidence for the events described in those books as there is for the early parts of the Bible.

dk

To the extent the Iliad and Odyssey have lead archaeologists to evidence, then they become substantive archeological documents. As I understand the epic poems were about real wars, and real people. The quarrels between the Greek gods go a long way to explain the ruin of Greek Civilization, degeneration into cynicism under the tutelage of sophists, and endless savage wars between city/states. I don't understand your criticsm. It would be absurd for modern archaeologists to prove or disprove epic poems. If Greek Civilization had grown and prospered across the ages then people would still be praying to Zeus to stop the chaos. But the historical record tells another story, and Zeus was found to be a false God. I'm not sure who said evolution was the basis for the UN DoHR, but the assertion posits Social Darwinism or Survival of the Fittest as the Law that best serves people. I don't care what rational or myth people put forward to understand themselves, where the rubber meets the road people understand themselves by the laws that govern them. When the law suits people, they prosper, flourish and grow by solving problems the world presents, but when the laws are unsuitable, people become degenerates incapable of sustaining civilization. One can review any of the dead civilizations to confirm the hypothesis.