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Old 04-17-2003, 06:13 AM   #11
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Emotional...I'd rather a book from a scientist than a lawyer. Lawyers spin words and lies, scientists spin expiriments.
The person who wrote this book happens to be a lawyer, but the book itself contains the findings of scientists: Crookes, Myers, Lodge, Osis, Moody, Ring, Morse, Fenwick, to name just a few. So your argument is invalid.

The link wasn't meant to persuade (I know it's nearly impossible) but to show that there is a differing opinion which is no less valid than the current concensus.
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Old 04-17-2003, 06:56 AM   #12
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What a crock of ****. All the world's failed crackpot ideas mixed and reheated into lukewarm mush by some ignorant ambulance chaser who wouldn't know a valid experiment from a month-old cheese sandwich. I'm glad he's not MY lawyer. Emotional, I am sorry my friend, but that wouldn't stand up in a court of law as evidence and it won't stand up here.

If you'd like to select just one bit of that tract that you consider persuades the world beyond reasonable doubt about [whatever] then please do so and it can be debated here. A rebuttal of the entire "work" would take too long, methinks.
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Old 04-17-2003, 07:03 AM   #13
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The person who wrote this book happens to be a lawyer, but the book itself contains the findings of scientists: Crookes, Myers, Lodge, Osis, Moody, Ring, Morse, Fenwick, to name just a few. So your argument is invalid.
Who the f**k are they? What journals did they publish their findings in? Who peer reviewed them? What exactly were their findings? Who in the scientific community agrees or disagrees? Has Zammit correctly interpreted and represented the results? Namedropping does not lend an argument validity...

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The link wasn't meant to persuade (I know it's nearly impossible) but to show that there is a differing opinion which is no less valid than the current concensus.
...and neither does the existence of a contradictory viewpoint make that viewpoint equally valid.
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Old 04-17-2003, 07:14 AM   #14
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I think so, Brain, but where are we going to find rubber pants and a chicken at this time of night?

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Old 04-17-2003, 07:23 AM   #15
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The link wasn't meant to persuade (I know it's nearly impossible)
I rest my case
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Old 04-17-2003, 07:40 AM   #16
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I purpose that you cannot argue against the existence of God unless you first assume his existence. For even in voicing that you disagree you are depending on the transcendental truth that language has objective meaning.
Lemmesee if I'm following you. It is your position that people can say god doesn't exist only in universes in which he does? And the reason is that if you were in a universe in which god didn't exist, and you admitted that he didn't, that would prove he did, thereby ... I dunno, cancelling out the universe?
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Old 04-17-2003, 07:54 AM   #17
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I openly challenge all intellectual atheists (those who avoid the use of “ad hominem” attack) to debate me on the issue of the existence of God.
Certainly, sir, what kind of god did you have in mind?
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"Debate" means you have to answer the posts *we* make.

Off to Elsewhere.
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Old 04-17-2003, 09:29 AM   #19
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attaboy, emotional! Never let facts get in the way of a good opinion!
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Old 04-17-2003, 09:51 AM   #20
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"Debate" means you have to answer the posts *we* make.

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Way to give him a whole 8 hours to answer. It’s not like people sleep or do non-computer related things for that amount of time…
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