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Magus55 · 02-22-2003, 10:57 AM

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Alas, the writer Hermann Hesse once wrote in his Damian that the repenting thief was the most annoying person in the Bible. He said that the unrepentent thief had real character, he stood abided to his character, and it made him greater, more deserved of respect, than the thief who cried in remorse. They are purer by default, these ruthless ones, who would not be persuaded by a carrot or by social acceptance.

And im sure Hermann Hesse has more credibility than God

philechat · 02-22-2003, 11:03 AM

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And im sure Hermann Hesse has more credibility than God

Yes, because he is not a fictional character

Magus55 · 02-22-2003, 11:16 AM

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Yes, because he is not a fictional character

You can't prove he's not so thats an invalid statement - i don't claim to be able to prove God exists 100% but the overwhelming evidence pointing to his existance only enchances my faith.

Until you search under every rock in the universe and are faced with every piece of evidence possible - you can't say he doesn't exist - you can only say you don't believe he does.

Luiseach · 02-22-2003, 11:23 AM

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i don't claim to be able to prove God exists 100% but the overwhelming evidence pointing to his existance only enchances my faith.

What does this 'overwhelming evidence' consist of?

philechat · 02-22-2003, 11:24 AM

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Until you search under every rock in the universe and are faced with every piece of evidence possible - you can't say he doesn't exist - you can only say you don't believe he does.

Now disprove Vishnu, Zeus, Ma-Tzu, Thor, IPU, Allah, a living Elvis, and the Annunuki for me. I am waiting. And I've just talked to Einstein and Leonardo da Vinci a few seconds ago. Now disprove it. I am waiting.

Luiseach · 02-22-2003, 11:29 AM

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Now disprove Vishnu, Zeus, Ma-Tzu, Thor, IPU, Allah, a living Elvis, and the Annunuki for me. I am waiting. And I've just talked to Einstein and Leonardo da Vinci a few seconds ago. Now disprove it. I am waiting.

Goodness, if someone disproves the existence of the Easter Bunny, I'll be crushed. ;-)

lisarea · 02-22-2003, 11:33 AM

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You can't prove he's not so thats an invalid statement

What proof would you require? Pictures? Official documents?

Here's probably a good jumping off point if you're really interested in proving or disproving Hesse's authenticity:

http://www.gss.ucsb.edu/projects/hesse/life/chron.html

Magus55 · 02-22-2003, 11:35 AM

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Now disprove Vishnu, Zeus, Ma-Tzu, Thor, IPU, Allah, a living Elvis, and the Annunuki for me. I am waiting. And I've just talked to Einstein and Leonardo da Vinci a few seconds ago. Now disprove it. I am waiting.

Hmm, no clue who Visnu, Ma-Tzu, IPU, or Annunuki are but people have been to the top of Mt. Olympus - no home of the gods there and since Zeus never actually spoke to the greeks or performed any wonders before his people - hes a joke. Not to mention Greeks had multiple gods - what Zeus wasn't powerful enough on his own to handle all his followers problems?

Allah constantly contradicts himself in the Quran and again i ask - what kind of god claiming to be completely righteous, holy and perfect makes a Heaven of nothing but lustful sex with women and young boys? And of course we can't leave out Allah ordering his followers to insight Jihad on any non believers and kill anyone who isn't a muslim. Christian God doesn't tell us to go kill Muslims and fly planes into buildings - Allah is a creation of Satan.

Elvis has never written a book telling people hes alive and well while dancing on stage before 500+ people after supposedly coming back alive...

Of course, what is the point of this? No matter what i say you bring up some contradictory excuse because Atheists have nothing else - they have nothing going for them that even remotely suggests God doesn't exist and when Christians try to show you how to avoid eternal punishment - you laugh in their face saying it will be fun.

Luiseach · 02-22-2003, 11:41 AM

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Of course, what is the point of this? No matter what i say you bring up some contradictory excuse because Atheists have nothing else - they have nothing going for them that even remotely suggests God doesn't exist and when Christians try to show you how to avoid eternal punishment - you laugh in their face saying it will be fun.

What 'overwhelming evidence' do you have for God's existence, please? I'm interested.

Queen of Swords · 02-22-2003, 11:47 AM

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when Christians try to show you how to avoid eternal punishment - you laugh in their face saying it will be fun.

It's always so easy in the Chick tracts, isn't it? There, when you tell someone they're going to burn in hell, you get a tearful whimpering and a quick conversion to your particular religion. Or maybe that only works for guys called Bob.

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Queen of Swords Contributor Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Canada. Finally. Posts: 10,155	Originally posted by Magus55 when Christians try to show you how to avoid eternal punishment - you laugh in their face saying it will be fun. It's always so easy in the Chick tracts, isn't it? There, when you tell someone they're going to burn in hell, you get a tearful whimpering and a quick conversion to your particular religion. Or maybe that only works for guys called Bob.

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