Family Man

I'd answer Radorth, but I'm still trying to figure out what an "inert fact" is.

Coming from the master of argument from authority -- all your answers can be found in Durant's 22-page summary is Radorth's primary argument -- I'll take Radorth's "counts" (which, I might add, are unsupported assertions themselves) as a compliment. There's really no point feeding the troll anymore.

Peter Kirby

Wouldn't that be a fact that isn't going anywhere?

You know, no matter how much someone might like it to go away.

best,
Peter Kirby

Gregg

I agree. His latest personal attack on Doherty was the last straw for me. He's now on my ignore list.

Gregg

Vorkosigan

'Dorth,

if you are willing to provide a scan of Durant's writing on Jesus, I would be willing to provide an analysis here at Infidels. It would be good practice, although I suspect from what I know of Durant's historical thinking that it would be more like target practice. I don't have a copy of Caesar and Christ, so you'll have to scan the pages for me.

Anyone out there read RT France's The Evidence for Jesus, which is supposed to be a response to Wells??

Vorkosigan

Vorkosigan

I tend to agree with this.

Geoff, how do you see the Slavonic Josephus' version of JtB?

Vorkosigan

Peter Kirby

I've read it. I thought it was actually more of a survey of the sources for the life of Jesus, with the conclusion that there is little available outside the 4G.

There is a need for a book in the 21st century that takes Jesus Myth hypotheses seriously and replies to them in detail. Unfortunately, the Jesus Myth writers have mostly targeted the public instead of the scholarly world, so there is not as much motivation for a good scholar to produce such a volume as there could be.

best,
Peter Kirby

Buffman

http://religion.rutgers.edu/jseminar/publish.html

(Added)

http://westarinstitute.org/Fellows/fellows.html

Peter Kirby

That web page mentioned a "Paul Seminar" and a "Canon Seminar" (and now an "Acts Seminar") -- does anyone know anything about the Paul Seminar?

best,
Peter Kirby

Buffman

How close are you to Santa Rosa?

http://westarinstitute.org/Events/events.html

Radorth

I recall that one or two scholars tried to debate Doherty, and in one case he stomped out because the man referred to Jesus as "he."

If true, this seems another example of JM'ers arrogance and ivory tower contemplations. Doherty seems to think that anyone who believes in Jesus personally is not worth his time. Carrier complains about his attitude toward conservative scholars. It also suggests his arguments are too poor to overcome someone else's predjudice, and that he is just looking for an excuse not to debate. It further suggests that he thinks his listeners are so gullible that simply referring to Jesus as "he" will sway their thinking.

I think it is this arrogance toward readers/listeners (from whichever side) which is most offensive to me.


Rad