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Old 05-01-2004, 05:40 PM   #41
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Al Kafirun, where did you get your text from?

I like to carefully list my sources, so that others can check them out and learn more.
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The possibility is so ridiculous that it isn't deserving of consideration. There are far more plausible explanations for her pregnancy than the Immaculate Conception. This is all assuming that Mary even existed.
And again, who says it is so ridiculous that it doesn't deserve consideration? When the hell did the world start revolving around atheists?
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And again, who says it is so ridiculous that it doesn't deserve consideration? When the hell did the world start revolving around atheists?
Fine then. When the pregnant teenager next door claims Immaculate Conception I am sure you will believe her immediately.

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Last time I checked, Christians were in a minority. Unless the word "minority" has changed its meaning recently so that 2 billion out of 6 billion doesn't constitute a minority.

I'm sorry Magus55, but a 2/3 majority thinks your religion is BS.

A good job for both of us, then, that argumentum ad numeram is a fallacy.
I don't really consider one out of every 3 people on Earth to be a minority. Where as strong atheists are more like, what, 1 out of 10-20? And another 1.8 billion people consider Jesus to be a divine prophet
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Of course Christians are the majority, people.

It is also not inplausible to assume that there will always be less intelligent people than morons.

I don't mind being in the minority in that case.
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Old 05-01-2004, 07:26 PM   #46
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I don't really consider one out of every 3 people on Earth to be a minority.
Ahem.

I seriously recommend you look this one up. www.dictionary.com is but a click away.

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If all humanity took a vote on the question of whether Jesus was God, you'd lose.

This is kind of the definition of "minority".

As in, more people outside the group than inside the group.




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And another 1.8 billion people consider Jesus to be a divine prophet
Yeah, but given that the key dogma of your religion is that Jesus was God, that still means they think your religion is BS.
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Old 05-01-2004, 07:30 PM   #47
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Traditional theistic argument ad populam. You should listen to yourself, man.

One third of the world can be wrong. Half the world can be wrong. All the world can be wrong. The number of people who believe in an idea is absolutely irrelevant when it comes down to its truth, especially because the average human being in this world is an idiot.

Magus, why do you believe in the Immaculate Conception more readily than that a teenage mother got knocked up by God? Is it really for no better reason than that you think most of the world does too?

If my memory serves me well, the majority of America supported the banning of water when it was presented in its chemical name. Does that make it right?

Long ago, humanity thought the world was flat. Did that make them right? Did the world slowly become more spherical as people realized that was closer to the truth? Did Copernicus make the earth start going around the sun and not vice versa?

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When the hell did the world start revolving around atheists?
No one here is making the argument that the Immaculate Conception is impossible because atheists don't think so. Speaking of which, when the hell did the earth start revolving around its inhabitants? When the hell did belief change the truth? When the hell did anyone say the world revolved around atheists?

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I don't really consider one out of every 3 people on Earth to be a minority.
And I don't consider two out of every three people on Earth to be a minority. Which of our definitions are right? Under what warped definition is 1/3 a majority?

You make no sense, and what's worse is that even after being called on the argument from numbers, you just go right on doing it.
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You make no sense, and what's worse is that even after being called on the argument from numbers, you just go right on doing it.
Particularly when the numbers aren't even on his side in the first place.
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When the hell did the world start revolving around atheists?
This possibility seems to upset you. Would you prefer that it revolved around fundamentalist christians, or around your own brand of fundamentalist christianity in particular?
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I don't really consider one out of every 3 people on Earth to be a minority. Where as strong atheists are more like, what, 1 out of 10-20? And another 1.8 billion people consider Jesus to be a divine prophet
Equivocation, Tu quqoe and Ad numeram. Three fallacies in three sentences.

Um. Wow?
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