Koyaanisqatsi

Well, thanks for that vote of confidence, Diana, but there would first need to be some meat for me to mince.

Un hunh...

Waiter? Check please...

Just that?

Yes, you've made this nonsensical claim repeatedly. Why not just call him "Jewsus?"

What? Do the world a favor and read a goddamned dictionary just once. "Man" is a gender qualifier; "Human" is a species qualifier. There is no "duality" to being a man (one who has a penis) and being human (one who is a homo sapiens).

If anything, "man" is merely a subset of the species commonly referred to as "human."

Likewise with your nonsense about "Jewsus." Jesus is a "man" because he (allegedly) had a penis; he was Jewish because his parents indoctrinated him into the Jewish cult.

No duality at all. He was merely a man who believed in Judaism, if you accept his existence at all.

Where do you get "man is heavenly" from?

I withdraw the question.

No, I will not until you prove such a ludicrous fairy land to factually exist, but somehow I don't think that will stop you.



Having fun trolling I see. Well, small minds are clearly entertained by small deeds.

Is a redundancy.

Since no such fictional being factually exists and the ones that are written about number into the thousands, could you please define which magical fairy creature you are talking about?

I withdraw the question.

Phew, finally, one cogent fragment. What's next?

Haven't a clue on that one. Knowledge and understanding can set you free from any belief of which doubt is its opposite...

So, knowledge and understanding is the only way to remove doubt? Is that what you're going for?

What's the "opposite" stuff all about and what would that have to do with assumed belief in a fictional being that is defined as "not knowable?"

Is this your first computer and you just love the way the keys feel? Is that it?

Isn't it meds time?

Would you care to pick any one of Jesus' parables and demonstrate precisely what the "reality behind" it is?

I withdraw the question.

And Amos likes to look at pretty pictures, don't you Amos? Yes! Cute widdle Amos! Say, "Hi, hi!" Say, "Hi, hi!" Gooood Amos.

Let's try this again. Look in a dictionary for the definition of the word "parable," ok? Gooood Amos.

Judging from what you've written here, I seriously doubt you're capable of looking at the reality...

And Amos loves his bankie! Seepy time, Amos! Seepy time...

So, your "argument" is that the rapture--a future event--has already occurred (I suppose, in some sort of eternal time loop paradox, yes) and that our soul is already in heaven as we are here on earth, is that about the thrust of things?

Thanks for participating! Don't let the URL slam you in the ass on your way out...


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Amos

Sorry, I can't speak for you and I do not know if the rapture is futuristic in your life or not.

My question would be: what good is it to you if your soul is in heaven while you are [still] on earth?

From my view heaven and earth become one and the same when we become part of our soul and for this to happen our ego must rapture first. So unlike popular American belief that after the rapture we go to heaven, I suggest that after the rapture we remain on earth which now becomes heaven because the ego has raptured.

BTW "The rapture" is not a universal event but just a personal realization of truth.

Amos

Koyaanisqatsi

...for you...in your little world, there...

What has this to do with the fact that the word "man" is used to denote a subset of humanity? What is this pointless dance of semantics in aid of?

Have you been huffing spray paint?

And an increase in your dose-sicity would would be an increase in our tranquility.

Because there is no such thing as the word "manity" and suffix are just made up elements of our language that we use--normally--to communicate with.

There is no hidden code or deep, spiritual meaning and speaking the "true" name of god backwards will not uncreate reality, ok?

Our "condition" of being called a man is a gender issue as a subset of the species human (aka, homo sapiens).

What is your primary language? Do us all a favor and let that "speak" for itself, because right now you're all over the map and/or high as a friggin' kite.

No, I do not. Among homo sapiens, there are two genders. One is commonly called "Man" and the other is commonly called "Woman." These are nothing more than qualifying words that have no special, secret meaning that unlocks anything supernatural. There is no cosmic code to it all, other than poetry, which is nice work if you can get it.

Dancing around in a trippy sort of daze with etymology only leads you right back to your own mind, my friend, so, by all means, enjoy the circuitous pointlessness and read whatever you want into things that have no complexity beyond that which you inflict.

That's ok, I was trying to figure out if this was your claim for yourself. You don't worry your widdle head about me.

Since you've just typed little more than poetic nonsense, I couldn't answer you. There is no such thing as a "soul" to be in a ficticious place called "heaven" while I am still on earth.

Don't worry, it's not your fault. You've clearly been brainwashed so severely that they've removed several layers.

Great. Have fun with that. Now, would you care to address the arguments? Are you capable of addressing the arguments?

You should get together with RainbowWalking and Metacrock and have yourselves a lovely little revisionist picnic and look at all the pretty butterflies and dance and sing your rhetoric into the happy, happy clouds.

I don't suppose the idea that all of this "rapture" nonsense was either the product of frightened, oppressed desert nomads desperately creating a ficticious mythology that would explain away and thus alleviate their suffering or the more probable notion that an elite faction of control freaks deliberately concocted such childishly simplistic imagery in order to manipulate people such as yourself into following their cult ever crossed your "mind," right?

I withdraw the question.

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diana

Ding Ding! Round three?

Damn. And me without my popcorn...

During the next intermission, let's all stand and sing "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy."

Whee.

d

Vorkosigan

There is no cosmic code to it all, other than poetry, which is nice work if you can get it.

Not really, the pay is lousy, and one's fellow practicioners are frequently Not All There.

Michael