post-it

As a Christian, I can agree with this statement. It doesn't deminish the existence of God as another cause for healing, but seeks additional means for cures.


I Disagree. Until one obtains a supported cause, one should hypothesize a cause, thus claim an unsupported cause.

post-it

God has nothing to do with giving a person cancer. Free will dictated that punishment goes with original sin. God must allow people to have cancer in order not to remove all parts of the punishment of mankind.


I think you are confusing us with the extremists and the 72 virgins a'waiting. The American religious have attachments via family, jobs, goals, etc. We have plenty of time later to enjoy heaven.

Philosoft

I don't remember "free will" doing any dictating of any kind. I do remember in Genesis where God punished Adam & Eve for attempting to make themselves "like gods."
I can think of thousands of other punishments God could allow in addition to or in place of cancer. Why isn't there a disease that makes people's fingers and toes fall off but doesn't kill them? In any case, I'd say God's punishments are losing their efficacy. What happens if/when we cure cancer?

Ion

The "...existence of God as another cause for healing..." is superstitious wishful thinking by religions and no proofs.
All the material world that humans raise, is being proved to be built by causes supported in science and technology, while nothing has been ever proved in history to be built by the unsupported causes claimed in religions.

Godbert

Originally posted by post-it
God has nothing to do with giving a person cancer. Free will dictated that punishment goes with original sin. God must allow people to have cancer in order not to remove all parts of the punishment of mankind.

Yes, but as I said, if he does not want that particular person to die of cancer why let him get it if he's going to cure him later. Especially, since God has gone to great lengths to cover up his existence in all other respects.



I think you are confusing us with the extremists and the 72 virgins a'waiting. The American religious have attachments via family, jobs, goals, etc. We have plenty of time later to enjoy heaven.
Right above in this same post you said that this is your punishment and you are sad when it is cut short?

post-it

The punishment extended to all mankind.

Which goes to point in an atheist vision world, you would think that at some point before now, between natural selection, and evolvement of man's knowledge that we would already have stopped disease and most youthful type sickness'. Maybe a system of punishment for original sin is at work and when one problem is fixed by man's knowledge, another one pops up.

Godbert

Since the average life expectancy today is 2 to 3 times of what it used to be it seems like there has not been much popping up.

Ion

Man, I have problems with your loose unsupported religious dogmas, like 'original sin'.

There is a need for proofs of these, you know?

post-it

I never claimed God cures people proactively. Man cures himself through the basic tools supplied to us in nature by God.

The punishment is on mankind, each person works to avoid the punishment whenever possible. Nothing in scripture mandates we accept punishment and in fact, Jesus healed the sick setting the example that we are to fight illness, not accept it. My further belief is that we can even use stem cells in that endevor.

post-it

You may want to research your numbers again. 2000 years ago man had the same life span when given like comforts as we have in many places today. 70-80 years

Even today in some 3rd world countries the life expentancy is only 40 years of age.