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Old 11-23-2002, 01:35 PM   #31
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Godless Dave: SirenSpeak I think you're confusing "organic" with "alive". Any molecule containing carbon is classified as organic.
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DNAunion: Godless Dave, I think you're confusing "organic" with "carbon". Not all molecules containing carbon are classified as organic (take carbon monoxide or carbon dioxide or buckeyballs, for example).
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Defiant Heretic: An organic molecule is a covalently bonded carbon compound.
DNAunion: No, that’s not accurate either.

Although you do at least bring in the term compound instead of simpler molecule (which means that now at least two DIFFERENT elements must be present, whereas in the original it could all be carbon, as in a buckeyball), your definition still doesn’t fit precisely.

As I already mentioned, carbon monoxide is not an organic molecule, yet it is a covalently bonded carbon compound. There are other counterexamples as well (CN, for example).
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<strong>It probably wasnt Thor. This is because the Bible gives the only accurate historical record of Creation, and there is not one mention of Thor in it.</strong>
That's correct, Frivolous. Its amazing how science has consistently verified the biblical account of the creation of our universe, our planet and living things within a single, 6-day period less than 10,000 years ago. Just look at all the peer-reviewed scientific journals and scientific affiliations that endorse this view, not to mention the top-notch scientists like Ken Ham and John Morris.

I would have tended to dismiss as myth the Genesis account, with its talking snakes, global floods, and 900 year-old humans, if it were not for this overwhelming and unequivocal evidence that recent, 6-day creation was true.
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Old 11-23-2002, 02:36 PM   #33
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An organic compound is one that minimally has hydrogen and carbon in covalent bonds.

BTW, folks, notice that one of DNAunion's chief obsessions here is to show that what 'organic compounds' are not, when he could have easily supplied the correct definition himself. In other words, he is not here to be helpful, but rather to boost his own ego.
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<strong>It probably wasnt [sic] Thor. This is because the Bible gives the only accurate historical record of Creation, and there is not one mention of Thor in it.</strong>
Prove it. Your last statement, that is. Prove that the Biblical account of creation is an accurate, historical account.

There is, of course, no more reason to regard the Biblical myths as authoritative, than there is to regard the Norse myths in a similar light.

You are, of course, free to disagree, but it is upon your shoulders that the onus of proof falls, you being the one making the positive assertion.

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<strong>Unfortuneately [sic] the Bible is sometimes hard to understand, and why it was written in this way only God knows.</strong>
Perhaps because your god had nothing to do with it? Certainly there is no evidence to suggest a supernatural influence with regard to the evolution of life. Nor is there, yet, any reason to assume a supernatural influence with regard to the origin of life.

Evidence that asserts a supernatural influence with regard to the origin of life would be welcomed.
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It probably wasnt Thor. This is because the Bible gives the only accurate historical record of Creation, and there is not one mention of Thor in it.
If you keep talking like that, you won't get to live in the halls of Valhalla after dying in battle!

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Old 11-23-2002, 03:13 PM   #36
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If you keep talking like that, you won't get to live in the halls of Valhalla after the great battle of Ragnarok!</strong>
I think that's before the Battle of Ragnarok. Valhalla was intended to be a training ground for Ragnarok.
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I fixed it! Couldn't you have waited more than ten minutes before posting a correction?!

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Principia: BTW, folks, notice that one of DNAunion's chief obsessions here is to show that what 'organic compounds' are not, when he could have easily supplied the correct definition himself. In other words, he is not here to be helpful, but rather to boost his own ego.
DNAunion: BTW, folks, notice that one of Principia's chief obsessions here is to try to assassinate my character and credibility. He could have easily just given the definition and left out the snide remarks. In other words, he is not here to be helpful, but rather to try to tear me down and build himself up.
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BTW, folks, notice that one of Principia's chief obsessions here is to try to assassinate my character and credibility.
You give yourself too much credit, Rick. As far as I am concerned, you have no character of any value nor any credibility.

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Nope, I was the one who actually gave a definition of organic compounds that you were obsessing over. Key point: I did, not you.

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DNAunion: BTW, folks, notice that one of Principia's chief obsessions here is to try to assassinate my character and credibility.
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Principia: You give yourself too much credit, Rick. As far as I am concerned, you have no character of any value nor any credibility.
DNAunion: Thanks for proving my point.

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Principia: Nope, I was the one who actually gave a definition of organic compounds that you were obsessing over.
DNAunion: Nope, you were the one who started with the insults.


So Prinicipia, how long do you intend to carry on insulting me? When do you plan to just drop the whole thing?

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