Cojana

I agree-e, our brains are what makes us what we are, but if we didn't have the compatable structure throughout, especially Hands, the brain would be useless,lest it would be telekinesis,...:notworthy

abe smith

in Cojana's support, that during at-least the last couple of decades of published thinking, I recall having read of very plausible theories that brain-structure-development and hence that's effect = the development of (human) intelligence, reciprocates with the evolution and developing .
skills-competence of the (human) hand. (Similar speculation about the development of human speech = language's being dependent on the structure of the human mouth, larynx and associated organs ; and that the vocal organs >>> development of speech >>> language reciprocates w/ development of brain structures.
I'm not sure /don't know = whether Cojana's "hand" theory includes the fact (*probable* fact....) of the evolution of the human hand , AND brain. Hardly-likely (given what we maybe know now.... or what we skeptics permit ourselves to call "knowledge") that any of all-that can be thought-of or discussed as a priori givens/structures.
Uh (individual) human bodies (existing one-by-one, as they do) are always um ummm each-one an "entity-in-motion"; not/never "perfect" then, now, nor henceforward; but always uh "alive" (whatever that is) and hence at-least "in-motion"
>>>> probably turning-into something-else/different.
Hence , exulting in past forms (as if those were/are frozen immobile/unchanging : is that what Cojana means?), is neither here nor there. We, each of us, is ummm a "work in progress".

Cojana

Abe Smith, thank you sir for the support , not to be ungratful but I don't entirely agree with your brief on my premises, I feel that we are not in process anymore, we have reached our pinacle, the only organ left to evolve are the 90% of brain we don't use, should we ever gain any or part of that 90% our structure are built to handle anything the mind can concieve as are, this are just an opinion in darkness on my part,as I am not intellectually efficient as most members here, I opologise for my deficiency and my Ego,...

Quantum Ninja

Nope, silly, legs are the perfect tool! Hands wouldn't be of much use if we couldn't walk around to find the raw materials necessary for constructing things! No, wait, wait, eyes are the perfect tool because we would walk around aimlessly, never finding any resources with which to build. And imagine trying to build something using your hands without the use of sight! No, I have this wrong, again. The digestive system is it! You couldn't do anything if you were malnourished.

No, no, that isn't it either. AHA! I've got it! I know what the perfect "tool" is! I'm sure you know what I'm thinking of! None of us would be here if it weren't for the remarkable function of this tool. Actually, it comes in two varieties... male and female....

Cojana

Touche,!! can't argue that reality, so different,yet so compatable, :banghead:

beastmaster

Speak for yourself. I use 100% of my brain.

Corona688

Pinnacle of what? Left to evolve? Evolution doesn't evolve because it thinks it needs to do something - evolution is a totally mindless force. For instance, humans have the gene for synthesizing vitamin C - but it's broken. Evolution didn't remove those people with the broken gene because, at the time, vitamin C wasn't a problem - those with the broken gene were just as able to survive as everyone else. And now, we all have the broken version, and chances are we won't get it back no matter how much evolutionary pressure there is for it. Pinnacle? I think not.

Sorry, that's urban-legend territory. It'd be more accurate to say that we only use 10% of the brain at a time - nothing saying it's always the same 10%. There are people that use substantially more of their brain at once, however - we call them epileptics.

Cojana

by Pinacle I mean, as human we have reached the leval where there are no evolutionary need,human structure are a finished process,, like a Horse, Whale,Eagle,and Vulture, thier process are finished too, thier at thier best form for what they do, and as for 'evolution' as mindless, maybe as we conceptulize 'Mind', but who's to know if 'intelligence' has its own process, 1000 years ago, Science was in the dark,today it are still in the dark for 1000 years from now, Science are Evolution in process, we are due for a big breakthrough,anyday now,..wanna bet,??

Lobstrosity

Well, I'm certainly willing to bet that some of us are more in the dark than others right now.

ZouPrime

Your understanding of evolution and evolution theory is flawed. Human structure is certainly not a "finished process", and our specy will be evolving as long as we continue to reproduce imperfectly and live in a limited resources environment. We're certainly not at "the best form for what we do", nor any other living specie on the planet.

I've read the entire threat, and I think the crux of the disagreements between you and the other posters is that you use very strong word, whom have very precise and strict meaning, to describe your thoughts. It's pretty normal to see everyone jumping on their seat when you use words and expressions like "perfect", "pinacle of evolution" etc. when hands and humans are very, very obviously not.

It's all cool to feel good about hands and stuff, but it shouldn't stop you from having a posed, realistic view about them. Scientific awe is good, but it should never take precedence over scientific truth.