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Old 03-24-2003, 01:20 PM   #41
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I've been a fan of Michael Moore for probably more then 20 years. He used to do a local radio program on Sunday mornings and he's not changed his atitudes much since then. He was a big influence on me during that time.
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The Academy Awards are a perfectly valid political forum. There's a microphone and 150 million viewers. What better way to be heard. Mr. Moore is a celebrity, and whether we care what he has to say or not, his audience is large.

As for the "appropriateness" of Mr. Moore's comments, I believe that he delivered his extremely valid point in an acceptable manner. A meeker delivery would have failed to make headlines and bring attention to the problem. He is a showman. And now, he's my favorite celebrity :-)

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I finally got to see what he said on CNN. Although the newscaster led it off with a snide remark, I thought MM came off a lot better than I thought he would.

From reading his books, and watching his movies and shows, it is apparent he cares 'for his fellow man' a lot more than most.

Imagine if he was President instead of Fuhrer Bushler.
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What was it that Steve Martin said after moores speech? Something like:

"You should have been back there, it was so sweet. The others in Micheals 'group' were helping him into the trunk of his limo"

I didn't get it then, and I don't get it now.
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What was it that Steve Martin said after moores speech? Something like:

"You should have been back there, it was so sweet. The others in Micheals 'group' were helping him into the trunk of his limo"

I didn't get it then, and I don't get it now.
I believe Martin made reference to the Teamsters, who are the American auto union that used to be headed by Jimmy Hoffa. Hoffa disappeared without a trace and some conspiracy theories have him offed by the mob. The 'trunk of the limo' think is a pop culture reference to one way the mob is alleged to deal with body disposal.
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Old 03-24-2003, 03:24 PM   #46
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I finally heard the comments.
I guess, if I were in Iraq, a solder, and I heard the comments, I would think he was trivializing my position. Not that that was what he meant, but it would sure seem that way to me.

I wasn't impressed, he isn't a very good speaker and unless he was trying to emulate Bush, he was exactly the same (I don't know how much to credit him because the entire "speach" seems very disjointed).

Anyway, I don't really care one way or the other about Mr. Moore, or the Oscars, that was just my impression of this one event.

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Old 03-24-2003, 04:02 PM   #47
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Lamma:

The majority of people I know here at school, the majority of posts ive read by people on various messageboards and everything were in favor of Moores speech.

Im not saying this shows his speech was good or bad, but you should stop acting like everyone in the world thinks he is some asshole now. be careful of attributing your pesonal opinion to others. So far it seems to only be rich hollywood phonies, you and Beyelzu
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Old 03-24-2003, 04:09 PM   #48
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Personally, I've never read any of his books, nor seen any of his films. I am, however, totally prepared to adore him just for the enemies he makes.
If you can manage it, I reccomend you catch at least one of his films. I promise you, you will adore him even more. I can reccomend Roger and Me and [/i]Bowling for Columbine[/i], the same two I think everybody else has seen!

As far as what he said, I think it was great. It was his opinion, and obviously the opinion of those documentarians around him (or they wouldn't have been up there), and that's all he was professing to speak for.

As for whether the Oscars are the appropriate forum? Give me a break! WTF? In one breath someone says it was inapproprate, and with the next they say the Oscars are a joke. Which is it? I would like to think that if I had something to say and I had 45 minutes of national broadcast TV time, I would take advantage of that time to get my message out.

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It was his opinion, and obviously the opinion of those documentarians around him (or they wouldn't have been up there), and that's all he was professing to speak for.
I wonder whether the other nominees knew what he was going to say before they walked up there with him...
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I wonder whether the other nominees knew what he was going to say before they walked up there with him...
I'd think you'd have to be pretty unfamiliar with Michael Moore not to know that he'd say something that would piss off a good portion of the viewing public. He's not shy about voicing his opinion in just about any forum.

Personally, I really like the guy. I've never seen any of his other documentaries but Bowling for Columbine was brilliant. And I don't think his comments were nearly as bad as I was led to believe they would be.

(But Adrien Brody's speech was quite touching and he's prettier to look at anyway. )
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