Rational BAC

Angels don't have gender?

I know that is commonly accepted, but probably erronious. Where in the Bible does it specify that angels have no gender? Where in the Bible where speaking of an angel ---Gabriel or any of them---is the pronoun "it" used?

Sounds like one of those things that if you say it enough times, people start to believe it.

mike_decock

If there's no sex in Heaven, what's the point of having a body?

-Mike...

Rational BAC

We do seem to have 2 threads discussing this at the same time.

Just shows how important sex is to most of us.

I disagree with Magus.

Marriage has to do with procreation and the protection of infants (after all humans do have a long time between birth and ability to make it on their own). Idea of marriage is purely earth based-------can't love 'em and leave 'em. -------or at least it is better for society that you don't.

No pregnancy or birth or sexual diseases in heaven, then no need for monogamy or marriage obviously---God is not stupid.

But that does not mean there is no sex in heaven. Au contraire=======I think there is a whole bunch of sex going on in heaven.

I think the Muslims can in no way match Christian sexuality in Heaven with their limited number of sexually inexperienced (=bad-in-bed) virgins waiting. I think the Christian heaven will have untold numbers of very horny 35 year old very experienced ladies awaiting.

And for the ladies, there will be untold #'s of very horny 16 year old studs awaiting.

That is my story and I am sticking to it. The Bible most obviously does not seriously discuss this subject. So a Christian sexual heaven can be anything you want it to be.

Treacle Worshipper

I suppose that's possible, based on this:

1 Corinthians 6
Sexual Immorality
12"Everything is permissible for me"--but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible for me"--but I will not be mastered by anything

and this:

1 Corinthians 10
The Believer's Freedom
23"Everything is permissible"--but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible"--but not everything is constructive.

(courtesy of Bible Gateway)

Presumably in heaven god would remove those things which are not beneficial or constructive.
However, I don't think any of the actual descriptions of heaven include sex, so I think you're on rather weak ground here.

TW

Biff the unclean

It sounds like you don't know very much about Christian tradition. Angels have no gender. They are all (every last one of them) called "He" because they are a higher life form than humans and not because they have a penis.
We all know that god is a "he", and the very best people are "he's" so you would expect beings half way in between men and god to be "he's" too.

Hey nobody said these traditions weren't asinine, just that they were traditions

You don't get girl angels showing up until they appear in plays in the mid 1800's. But that has more to do with selling tickets than anything else.

Rational BAC

Sorry Biff------

Don't think you have a leg to stand on on this one.

Sounds like you are being suckered into the "tradition"-------read a bunch of poppycock-------about angels being without gender. Honestly, your off the wall, convolluted reasoning or lack thereof sound just like a Fundy's.

You can be as bad as the fundies sometimes. There is no proof one way or the other. And the most logical and rational thing to assume, assuming nothing at all, is that the angels did have gender.

Why not for Gawd's sake?

You, who are so good at quoting Biblical text-------show me anything at all to prove that the Angels are without gender.

I remember one time that you blew me away with like 10 Biblical quotations supporting something and I had to defer to Magus (which I don't generally like to do).

So come up with 10 Biblical references on this one, Biff. Don't think you can do it.

Citrusponge

The bible suggests that angels do have gender and sexuality; Genesis mentions angels coming to earth and... reproducing... with human females..

6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Biff the unclean

It's Roman Catholic tradition. I can't help it if you don't know it.
Sure in contradicts Gen6:4., but biblical contradictions don't seem to bother the religious one jot. If you were reading it correctly it wouldn't contradict.
Note how it say "the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them" does that contradict Jesus being the ONLY begotten son of god and a virgin to boot? No, because it doesn't mean what it says; it means whatever the Xian talking about it says.

I remember one time that you blew me away with like 10 Biblical quotations supporting something and I had to defer to Magus
Right and Magus the great brain said something you wanted to hear and the 12+ (not only 10) Biblical quotations, although they all said exactly the same thing, said something you didn't want to hear. So instead of picking the Bible as your authority you picked Magus. LOL

Citrusponge

Then you are assuming something; that angels do have gender. Is it logical and rational to assume that God has a gender?

Rational BAC

Of course.

Now I think that God is a guy, although I could be wrong. Will find out someday I guess.
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And Biff--

You kind of got off subject there. I was complimenting on your Biblical knowledge to be able to prove a point. I assume, in this case, since you can't quote anything Biblically, just bring up a Catholic "tradition" (like this Episcopalian really gives a crap about Catholic tradition) that you really can't prove anything at all one way or the other about sex in heaven or gender of angels.

So for lack of any real contrary Biblical opinion on this subject, (besides Magus' bringing up "no marriage in heaven") then I will assume that I am correct on this subject======all the sex anyone could want in a Christian heaven------just no marriage.