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Old 07-14-2003, 03:53 PM   #71
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Any reports of the moon darkening or the stars falling from the sky?
eclipses and meteor showers,BUT they happen all the time.and he still is not here or is he?
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eclipses and meteor showers,BUT they happen all the time.and he still is not here or is he?
Eclipses and meteor showers are not whats being referred to. You just can't give up this argument can you Mark?

Biff, you keep believing its a failed prophecy, and the Bible is wrong - I can easily see what it means. You are spiritually discerned, and can't understand things from God. Arguing with you is hopeless, and pointless.
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Biff, you keep believing its a failed prophecy, and the Bible is wrong - I can easily see what it means. You are spiritually discerned, and can't understand things from God. Arguing with you is hopeless, and pointless.
So why do you keep trying Magus? I afraid for you that most of us find Biff's arguments more convincing.
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Biff, you keep believing its a failed prophecy, and the Bible is wrong - I can easily see what it means. You are spiritually discerned, and can't understand things from God.
If that were true, no one would leave Christianity after studying the bible. Why does your god abandon his followers?

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Because you keep losing? Who is worse? The one who argues, or the one who argues back?
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Because you keep losing? Who is worse? The one who argues, or the one who argues back?
How have I lost? I know the meaning, I explained the meaning, you don't accept it. How is that losing a debate? You don't agree with it, thats your problem, not mine. I have absolutely nothing to prove to you - I don't need your approval or acceptance of my beliefs to believe them. Your problem is between you and God, not me.
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I know the meaning, I explained the meaning, you don't accept it.
When arguing via authority or tradition, you need to capitalize. Try this: I know The Meaning, I've explained The Meaning, but you all don't accept It.

Isn't that alot more impressive?
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We never did touch on how they handled this in the middle ages with the story of The Wandering Jew. This nasty Jew had the nerve to laugh at the story of the Rapture. When JC said "there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God" he was cursing this poor giggling bastard. This laughing boy lived on and on always getting older but never dying, year after year. Just wandering around Europe asking people to pity him because he didn't believe Jesus and was now doomed. Doomed to wander till the end of the world.

AND THERE HE IS NOW!!!! BOOO!!!!!

Ah, the old campfire/gospel stories still hold up for scaring small children.
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How have I lost? I know the meaning, I explained the meaning, you don't accept it. How is that losing a debate? You don't agree with it, thats your problem, not mine. I have absolutely nothing to prove to you - I don't need your approval or acceptance of my beliefs to believe them.
You don't need logic, either. That is the problem. You believe anything as long as it's written in the bible. Would that include doodlings by children?

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If he exists, he would be guilty of making his word hard to comphrehend. Does he want people to be saved or not? Why not simply appear to representatives of other religions and tell them they're wrong?
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Your problem is between you and God, not me.
My mother told me this when I got involved with a woman who was wrapping up a divorce at the time. You don't happen to go to Macedonia Freewill Baptist Church, do you?
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You believe anything as long as it's written in the bible.
No he doesn't. It says the rapture will take place in the lifetime of the original audience over a dozen times. Since it didn't happen he doesn't believe that the bible means what it says. He makes up his own story which isn't written in the bible and claims that the bible says what he wants it too. The rest of us "are spiritually discerned"because we only read what the book says, again and again...I have no idea what that term even means. Probably that we won't play make believe with him.
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