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Old 05-19-2003, 06:23 PM   #1
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Default Have you heard O'Reilly...

apologize yet?



BILL O'REILLY:
"Here's, here's the bottom line on this for every American and everybody in the world, nobody knows for sure, all right? We don't know what he has. We think he has 8,500 liters of anthrax. But let's see. But there's a doubt on both sides. And I said on my program, if, if the Americans go in and overthrow Saddam Hussein and it's clean, he has nothing, I will apologize to the nation, and I will not trust the Bush Administration again, all right? But I'm giving my government the benefit of the doubt. . . .


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http://notesontheatrocities.blogspot.com/

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Old 05-19-2003, 10:23 PM   #2
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Speaking of O'Reilly...

It seems our very enlightened freeper friends have discovered something very interesting about him. You see, he's actually a Bush-hating, antipatriotic closet leftist!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/906192/posts

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IMHO O'Reilly has lost all objectivity and is on a personal vendetta against President Bush and those in his administration.
Amazing what you can discover over there. It's another world. The Matrix has some of us, it seems. . .

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Those defending the Bush admin and the actions in Iraq can only reply with "give them time". Its been a month which does appear to be a very short period of time. But, when you consider the "facts" that Bush and Powell presented to the UN they should have been able to walk in and find the stuff, no problem. The fact that more people are not outraged that they lied and they were caught doing it frustrates me to no end. What will have to happen before people realize what a dirt bag this guy is, a blowjob?
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How ironic that Bush now wants time, a luxury not extended to the U.N. process. As for for whether one month is a short period of time, not really when compared qualitatively to the U.N. inspections. The U.S. has had thousands of persons looking within a country under its control, contrasted with a fraction of U.N. inspectors acting within a country under control of the Iraqi regime. In that month, I would venture to guess that the U.S. has had exponentially more time and access then the U.N. inspectors ever had.

I share your outrage, ex-idaho, at how the administration has been able to convince the public that it had a legitimate reason for the war. I recently heard an interesting Hitler story, in which Hitler was explaning the propagandist rationale that would be used to explain the invasion of Poland, telling his assistants to not question whether it was true or not, as no one ever questions the victor. I see a number of similarities in the way the Bush administration approached the invasion of Iraq. The public reasons given to gain support for the war have been abandoned with the adminstration hoping that everyone forgets they told Congress, the U.N. and the U.S. public that they had irrefutable proof that frightening amounts of WMD currently existed, that nuclear capability was only months away, and that Al Quaida was aided by Hussein.

I hope in the next election some candidate reminds Bush of these things. I can't wait to see him have to answer them personally, rather than through mouthpieces and soundbites.
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Iraq was a threat to our country, as well as our allies, and now they aren't. I think that was a good reason to go in for a regime change.
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Iraq was a threat to our country, as well as our allies, and now they aren't. I think that was a good reason to go in for a regime change.
I wonder how you'd feel if the EU applied that same logic toward effecting a "regime change" in the U.S.
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Iraq was a threat to our country, as well as our allies, and now they aren't. I think that was a good reason to go in for a regime change.
Good one. Almost had me there for a minute.

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How ironic that Bush now wants time, a luxury not extended to the U.N. process. As for for whether one month is a short period of time, not really when compared qualitatively to the U.N. inspections.

last I checked 12 years is much longer than one month. Unless my sense of time is all distorted of course.


I mention this because I am always confused by people who said that the UN process wasnt given enough time.
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You may not have been aware then...the inspections had ended four years prior. They had only weeks and most of that was spent chasing down bogus leads from Washington. They asked for three additional months but Bush wouldn't give it to them.

After 12 years why couldn't he wait 3 more months? If he had we may have gotten support. Whatever his rush was it wasn't worth losing the legitimacy and support of the UN.

Maybe because three more months may have been enough time to discredit all of Bush's allegations about the chemical and biological weapons as the inspectors did his claims about the nuclear program.
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I'm still wondering wether we went for a "liberation" or a "regime change." They sure don't sound like the same thing to me but the Bush admin. seems to act as though they are.
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