JCS

EXACTLY!!!

How could you expect Eve to make logical choices without the information from which a logical choice could be reached. It would be like having too choose A or B, but without the knowledge A or B exists or the knowledge that you are even making a choice, and after said choice the implications of said choice are revealed. :banghead: Old Man exactly where is the logic in that?

JCS

What about the men who divorce their wives so that they can get a new or younger model? Why do you seem to hold women to a higher standard for behavoir or choices?

Even if I grant your statistic that women originate 70% of all the divorces, you haven't shown the cause of such action. How many have dumped the spouse for infidelity or abuse or abandonment or.............

JCS

Ok, I see the link you provided has the statistics for cause.

Adultery - 16.6%
Behavior - 39.00%
Desertion - .50%
Separation - 11.75%


I see your point Old Man. Women are such assholes for not desiring a spouse that cheats, beats, or deserts them. If they only had the capacity to reason through these minor little inconveniences.

Jackalope

Vinnie, your summary of the yoruba creation myth isn't quite right. The spider web thing is african, but it's not yoruba. If you want, I'll write up a quick summary of the yoruba myth in Non-Abrahamic Religions. I've always loved their explanation of why some people are born handicapped: Obatala got drunk while he was molding the first people from clay.

Invader Tak

WinAce!! WinAce!!! Where are you!!! This guy is a veritible font of "Darndest Things".

Vinnie

I spelled Yoruba wrong

World Mythology p. 267. The Yoruba people of west africa say that the original earth was water and uninhabited marsh until divinity came down from the sky and made solid ground. Human beings were then created in heaven and sent down on a spider's web to earth."

Of this is incorrect I would like a summary of the Yoruba myth and also knowledge of who the spider web view actually comes from? Documentation would be nice to so I could leave a not in the article. I obtained my information from 'World Mythology' Gen Ed. Roy Willis.

Thx,
Vinnie

Vinnie

Thats is great! That definately ranks right up there with the Carabaulo myth which said our ancestors climbed out of a giant vagina!

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Vinnie

Kosh

I have always thought that one of the main reasons that Judaism/Christianity/Mormanism (and I presume Islam as well) have managed to survive is that they have sufficiently watered down the creation myths to make it easier to believe at a cursory glance.

Ie, the "earth spilled forth from from his instestines" approach (dont' remember which myth that was) is a bit too graphical and easy for people to reject based on common sense, as opposed to something like "God said there let there be light, waved his hands, and it was so".

Know what I mean?

Vinnie

The account may be more ordered than some other ones and given that this is the Bible people will naturally confuse this with historicity. It also might seem more credible to some because the theology behind it is probably closer to their own and also, because we are so accustomed to the account its become normal. Argument ad nauseum? :-D

I actually found another intrinsically unlikely historical detail that I missed in the account. Someone mentioned this is a thread on another board:

Why did God curse snakes or the snake? Most Christians think the snake was the Devil. If the dvil possessed a snake to tempt Adam and Eve why would God curse snakes afterwards???

The absurdities of trying to treat a myth as history....

Vinnie

Vinnie

Old Man, can you define or describe what a "law of sin" is? The term is somewhat meaningless to me. I don't have any clue what it refers to? I can't really assess it unless I can comprehend it?

Vinnie