ooh_child

Consider that these folks didn't meet their SI's until AFTER they were famous.

How do you know that the relationships weren't "exactly great"?
References, please.

MHB

ooh_child

Edit that-(much too late after work)-I meant BEFORE, not AFTER.

MHB

James Hamlin

Another 18-year-old infidel here (gonna be a college freshman), come to impart a small kernel of his vast wisdom () upon an infidel in need.

The nitty-gritty:
Stop whining, thinking you are special, and otherwise being a self-pitying, pretentious, arrogant, stubborn, stereotypical cynical teen.

Some reality for you here-

You're NOT the smartest person in the world. You are probably NOT the smartest person at your school. You can be confident in your intelligence, in fact, you should be, but being condescending is unattractive to both prospective mates and prospective friends. I'm sure most of the people that have tried to help you here have been turned off by the know-it-all air you put on. These people have experience-something you lack-so listen to them despite your "rational" objections.

Probability? There are over 3 billion women in this world, dude! How rational is it to claim that you will find none that you will be attracted to on several levels? If you don't, it's because of your attitude, as many have said. So you're smarter than some people. So what? Why can't you be friends with them? Why can't you have relationships with them? Set aside your superiority for a second. Hell, realize that you aren't superior. There are intelligent people who are also able to socialize. You CAN change your attitude and the way you interact with people.

You don't want to deal with your problems. Your OP asked for any info on how to avoid your problems, how to turn away from them. If you want to be a human being, which is the rational thing to do, because, as a skeptic, you believe that we are physical beings and nothing more, you must make an effort to satisfy your instincts in healthy ways. Sex is not a fad. Kissing is not a trend. Affection is not a craze. These are natural things. Are you sickened by these things because you feel you cannot have them? Stop saying that these things can't happen to you without even trying! Make an effort, damnit! Step one is make some friends.

I know I've just rehashed what everone else has already said, but I think you need to hear it again and again. Ugly people get girls and make friends. Idiots get girls and make friends. Cynical, defeatist, self-pitying, self-proclaimed geniuses don't get much of either. Stop expecting every girl to meet your expectations. Look at what you have to offer. There are no doubt many things, but with your current attitude you can't deliver them.

Flyboy

I am 19, and have had fairly similar (and still have) similar feelings as this.

The first thing I would like to point out is that unlike the vast majority of posters of this thread DC is from the midwest. As am I. Even though I live in a relatively large city (250,000), in real life I have only ever met an atheist once. And I had deconverted him. What I am getting at here is that DC probably has disproportionate view of how many atheists are out there.

Also, I may be going out on a limb here, but from what I gather DC seems to be an introvert. As am I. We see general conversation as being horrendously boring, as well as spacious. This gives the impression that people that engage in such lack intelligence, when in fact it may not be the case. Until I had read an article in a recent Atlantic Monthly about introversion, which promted me to study into it a little. I had just assumed that the people that engaged in such conversation seemingly gleefully, were of an inferior intellect.

tensorproduct

People who like to talk are of an inferior intellect!?! WTF

I am also a 19 y.o. , introverted atheist. And one of my favourite things is listening to people talk. I rarely make much contribution to conversations but I am fascinated by how some people have the ability to discuss pretty much anything. I love listening to friends and family speaking and I can't imagine how anyone would ever consider this wonderful skill A Bad Thing.

Loren Pechtel

While I wouldn't say they can't be intelligent, my experience is that intelligence is uncommon in the pretty ones. They are used to getting what they want with their looks instead of with their brains.

Loren Pechtel

Agreed. My wife and I hardly have an interest in common. Where's the big problem? I don't see any.

Loren Pechtel

He perfectly well could be--after all, 2% of people are in the top 2%!

However, even without being in the top 2% he could have the problem of actually using his intelligence, unlike an awful lot of high school students.

Flyboy

I didn't say that I think people that like to talk are stupid I said that to somebody who is introverted it can appear that way and if you didn't know better you might be inclined to think that way. The reason I say that is that I find general conversation mind-numbingly boring. I still don't understand how people can sit and talk about what they did last Friday for hours. I would rather hit my head against a wall. :banghead: If I hadn't read up on introversion and extorversion to know that they simply have a different way of thinking I would be inclined to believe that perhaps they aren't able to think well enough to make such topics boring.

Dark Cobra

I have intelligence and I use it.

I am sick of the complaining about what I want. What I listed is what it takes so I can be attracted to them. Yes, I am an introvert, and yes, I would strongly desire someone with similar interests as me. If you can't understand that that's your own damn fault.

I'm sick of the strawman people throw out in this topic. I never said I was the smartest person in the world, for instance.

How do I know their relationships were less than perfect?

Well, I'm not sure about Einstein, I know that Curie had an affair, and I think Edison worked so much that he didn't have much of a relationship with his wife, I'm not sure.

Oh yes, and by the way-- of the person I have described as an "ideal partner", how many of YOU have met that person, besides yourself if you would qualify?