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Old 09-12-2002, 05:58 PM   #251
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...and then sidetracked with unsubstantiated assertions as the one you make.

What evidence do you have to support your claim?

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If it was a purely medical question you would be right, but it ISN'T.

Many men resent the fact they were circumcised for reasons that are in no way medical.

I have never encountered a man who resents NOT being circumcised!

Have you?
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Old 09-12-2002, 06:00 PM   #252
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I'm willing to concede that circumcision lessens the risk of penile cancer somewhat. However, a threefold increase in jack shit... is still jack shit.
What Corwin said.
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Old 09-12-2002, 06:18 PM   #253
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Yes, I have had patients that didn't like their foreskins and wish that they were circumcised; The urologist in my medical office building can take care of them. I've probably also met some men who wish they had a foreskin though they didn't say so to me.
The vast majority of men, circumcised or not, have better things to think about.

You stated that I hadn't addressed "the real question" and then brought up another tangent.

You also falsely asserted there is a "good chance" a man will resent being circumcised.

Neither your tangents nor your false assertions address the "real question."

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Old 09-12-2002, 06:40 PM   #254
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<strong>Yes, I have had patients that didn't like their foreskins and wish that they were circumcised; The urologist in my medical office building can take care of them.

You stated that I hadn't addressed "the real question" and then brought up another tangent.

You also falsely asserted there is a "good chance" a man will resent being circumcised.

Neither your tangents nor your false assertions address the "real question."

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Good grief man hasn't it filtered through yet?

These men didn't resent not being circumcised because they COULD GET IT DONE!

A circumcised man cannot get uncircumcised.

You are in simple bloody-minded denial.


My assertions are not false nor are they scientific because I'm talking about people, not science.

A) True or false - there exist a group of circumcised men who campaign against infant circumcision?

B) True or false - there exist a group of uncircumcised men who campaign FOR infant circumcision?

Given that A is true and B is false, what do you conclude?
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Old 09-12-2002, 07:22 PM   #255
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<strong>These men didn't resent not being circumcised because they COULD GET IT DONE!</strong>
A grown man that was not circumcised as a neonate cannot become circumcised as an infant. A man that has terminal penile cancer or HIV cannot undo either.

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My assertions are not false nor are they scientific because I'm talking about people, not science.</strong>
The last part is right.

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Given that A is true and B is false, what do you conclude?</strong>
That you make unsubstantiated assertions such as "there's a good chance" a man will resent being circumcised and don't back it up after making really weird claims like "The main benefit of NOT being circumscised - masturbate is possible without lubrication -indeed without a foreskin I cannot imagine that masturbation is a fraction as enjoyable."

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Yes that's it exactly. It's so BIZARRE to think that any sexual activity could be more enjoyable without having had part of your genitals sliced off!!!!!

I'm through with this conversation. As I said, I respect your OPINION in most other areas Dr Rick... but in this one you're just being a blithering moron.
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Old 09-13-2002, 09:19 AM   #257
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I don't know if someone already pointed that out, but there is a cheap, non-surgical way of restoring (rather grow a replacement for) your foreskin. For starters you can check the <a href="http://www.norm.org" target="_blank">National Organization of Restoring Men</a>

It involves applying constant round-the-clock light tension on your shaft skin (e.g. with weights or tape and a strap). The result is that you will grow shaft skin, just like tribesmen in Africa can grow earlobes down to their shoulders by wearing heavy earrings.

Of course, you can't regain the special-purpose, highly erogeneous hardware that was removed. But if you can grow enough skin to keep your glans covered while flaccid, both your glans and inner mucosa will be protected from exterior friction and they will be kept moist. This will lead to shedding of keratin, a protein-layer whose goal is to desensibilize these areas from this friction (with the side effect of lessening sensibility during sex, of course).

The point is to make the best of what you have left.
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<strong>I respect your OPINION in most other areas Dr Rick... but in this one you're just being a blithering moron.</strong>
You would be well advised to keep your little pud clean; we don't want your mother gagging on your smegma.
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<strong>There are websites where they talk about stretching the skin over the glans and putting a weight on it....sounds painful. I have no idea if it works or not.</strong>
No, it is not painful at all and it should not be since you need to do this pretty much 24/7. I use a technique that involves elastic straps (if someone wants more details, mail or PM me for a link).

As to whether it works or not, it depends what you mean by "works". If you mean reverting to an uncut state, the answer is a flat out no, since there are muscles, veins, nerves, etc. that were permenantely lost in the circumcision. If you mean lengthening the shaft skin and improving sexual experience, the experience of thousands of men seem to indicate a definite yes.
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You would be well advised to keep your little pud clean; we don't want your mother gagging on your smegma.</strong>

How mature.
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