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Old 06-25-2003, 06:30 PM   #11
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I don't know..... we always just used to call them 'vain.'

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If it's vanity to care about the image I present to other people, then by the IPU, I'm vain and proud of it. You should be thankful. That's one less guy wearing some hideous exercise outfit/too-small bathing suit/wife-beater/plumber's pants/Mr. T chains/sweatpants/etc you have to look at while wandering down the boardwalk. If that's masculinity, I'd rather be effiminate!
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Whatever happened to jeans and a tshirt? Shaving when you get up early enough?
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I have no feminine side that I'm aware of.
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Old 06-25-2003, 09:59 PM   #15
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I'm still in training. I can give other people fashion advice, for example, but I'm not particularly good at finding my own look yet. But I'm close enough to have made some of my guy friends nervous in the past!
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This is one of those things where you shouldn't be able to sin through ignorance. It IS a bit of a silly rule, and I've never understood it fully, so I consider it more of a sign that someone really doesn't know what they're doing when it comes to fashion (as opposed to some sort of fashion cardinal sin).
I don't even know what I need to say about someone who considers not following an idiotic fashion rule that has nothing to do with aesthetics to not"know what they're doing when it comes to fashion."

In general (ie not directed at anyone here), anyone who brags about their fashion skill undoubtable is boring ass trend hopper with a deep void in their personality.

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ANYONE ANYWHERE that buys something because its expensive is a complete fool. End of story. Yeah your abercrombie shirt cost 50 bucks and looks the exact same as my 2 dollar shirt is real cool.

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In my opinion, there is certainly something to aesthetics. So there is certainly something to fashion. Anyone that pretends they are against fashion is... well pretending. We all need it to a degree. But anyone that spends lots of time and money on fashion is wasting space in my book.
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That's one less guy wearing some hideous exercise outfit/too-small bathing suit/wife-beater/plumber's pants/Mr. T chains/sweatpants/etc
I guarentee you would look cooler in Mr. T chains that J-crew peat linen cargo pants.
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I don't even know what I need to say about someone who considers not following an idiotic fashion rule that has nothing to do with aesthetics to not"know what they're doing when it comes to fashion."
It's a fashion rule. It doesn't make much sense, but it's a rule. If you don't know about the rules of fashion, you're trying to fake fashion. Sort of like someone who doesn't know how many laws of thermodynamics are trying to fake physics. Granted, the thermodymanics laws have a bit more of a practical utilization thing going on.

It's just one of the basic axioms. Someone attempting to pass themselves off as fashionable can wear all the Gucci they want; if they're wearing white pumps, I know they're bluffing. They can't be relied upon for trend advice, or as a shopping partner. If they missed one of the easiest and most basic rules, how many others are the unaware of? Are these people who would try to convince me to wear brown shoes with blue slacks? It's certainly possible.

It's not about spending money, either. The top designers are crooks who haven't put out a wearable garment in a decade. They cater to people with more money than sense (especially COLORBLIND people with more money than sense, who wear a size 2 and below). If you think a $400 Prada handbag is what "fashion" is all about, whether you're the celebrity on the Red Carpet or an average Joe bashing the whole concept, you're missing the point.

It *is* often entertaining to look at the straw men most people have set up and labled "fashion", my eyes can only take so much pale yellow/brown in one sitting.

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I guarentee you would look cooler in Mr. T chains that J-crew peat linen cargo pants.
Many people would indeed look cooler in Mr. T chains than J-crew cargo pants. Unfortunately, I'm not one of them.
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It doesn't make much sense, but it's a rule. If you don't know about the rules of fashion, you're trying to fake fashion. Sort of like someone who doesn't know how many laws of thermodynamics are trying to fake physics. Granted, the thermodymanics laws have a bit more of a practical utilization thing going on.
I am sorry to be so insulting but I can't describe this as ANYTHING but idiotic. Mindnumbingly idiotic. You are actually comparing an arbitary "rule" of fashion to the laws of thermodynamics.

I've got news for you buddy, fashion rules are not rules in anywhere near the same sense that scientific laws are laws.

This should be painfully obvious by virtue of the fact that fashion "rules" differ from trend to trend.

Not to mention that a fashion rule is not something everyone agrees on by any means. But anyone who has studied science agrees on the laws of thermodynamics.

Quite frankly anyone who follows a stupid rule like that knows nothing about fashion anymore than some 12 year old girl that hears MTV proclaim Britney Spears is the best artist alive and repeats this fact knows anything about music.
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what y'all don't understand is this is just another ploy by men to get girls into bed. seriously. they sent out the 'metrosexual memo' like 7 years ago.
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