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Old 07-03-2003, 06:19 PM   #11
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Default Re: Re: Re: Another thread about christ in the old testament

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lol, yeah I realised - just thought there might be some truth hidden in it

That's what I love about this place though - ask a question, and you get more information than you know what to do with. Thanks Peter and co

The reason I wanted this information is because there is a speaker going around the country (via the churches etc) spewing this stuff to impress the theists. Since he seemed to be at least a little interested in the truth, I'm going to try and present a refutation to this part of his speech (which was in my opinion the most influential part of his "fullfilled Prophecy" speech, as the rest of it seemed somewhat ambiguous)
I do actually hold that the prophesy was fulfiled...in the manner described in Alan Montgomery's paper....


The initial date for this paper is AD 27, the date of Jesus' first passover. This occurred 46 years after the commencement of Herod's temple (John 2:20) in 20 BC. (Note that AD 27 less 46 years is the year -19 which, because there is no year 0, is 20 BC.) The timing of Jesus' ministry and death was prophesied in Daniel 9:24-27. From the issuing of the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the appearing of the Messiah was to be 69 weeks of years, i.e. 7x69 = 483 years. In the middle of the 70th week He was to put an end to sacrifices. The traditional Christian interpretation of Daniel [14, pp383-389] places the beginning of the 70 weeks at the decree given to Ezra by Artaxerxes I in his 7th year (Ezra 7:11-28), which was 483 years before the first year of Jesus ministry, 26 AD or 458 BC. This agrees with the date calculated from the kings and reigns of Ptolemy's Canon for the 7th year of Artaxerxes I . Then, 464 BC is year 1 of Artaxerxes I. Contemporaneous Persian business and official records confirm the accepted reign lengths of the preceding Persian kings back to Cyrus the Great yielding 538 BC for the 1st year of Cyrus. This is the year of his great edict releasing the Jews from captivity in Babylon under the Chaldeans. Ptolemy's Canon gives the same date for the 1st of Cyrus.

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http://www.ldolphin.org/icc-am.html


I would be interested in a refutation of this.
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