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winstonjen · 06-12-2003, 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by Hedwig
Magus, if someone attemted to overthrow heaven once what's to say that it won't happen again? God might very well have to judge in heaven.

Exactly. God screwed it up once, what guarantee is there that he won't do it again?

Come on, everyone. Let's all post arguments for Magus to present strawmans for.

Hedwig · 06-12-2003, 06:10 PM

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Originally posted by Magus55

And Mageth, Humans didn't evolve ever. Sorry, macroevolution isn't true. Scientists can't prove it, and the evidence isn't compelling enough, so evolution isn't true.

Methinks someone has been suckling at the teat of AiG again.

winstonjen · 06-12-2003, 06:16 PM

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Originally posted by Hedwig
Methinks someone has been suckling at the teat of AiG again.

AiG? Hmm...perhaps the 'relationship' desired by god with us is a sexual one, hence the desire for us to be virgins when we go to heaven. :boohoo:

Spaz · 06-12-2003, 07:45 PM

Poor Magus, I'm sorry you feel so bad about being human, but the good news is that you probably have plenty of years to figure out that you're just deluding yourself (Unless of course you have some medical condition that you can't fix yourself, then you might need treatment). Tons of people here didn't deconvert until far into their lives, so you still have some hope. Just stop and think about it for a couple minutes, it'll click. People are very interesting animals, we've developed so much intellectually that we feel the need to deny that we're animals...

Rational BAC · 06-12-2003, 08:31 PM

Magus getting ganged up on pretty good here.

So have decided to get out of this one. I am always for the underdog in any contest in an emotional sense. And I don't believe in "piling on".

So forget my earlier question Magus. It wasn't really that important anyway.

Will do that one another time.

Take care Magus.

We are really both on the same side, you know.

Radorth · 06-12-2003, 10:24 PM

We could not possibly have evolved from apes. They are far more civilized toward each other.

If you believe we did evolve from apes, the future must look utterly hopesless. It's been all downhill ever since Neanderthal. Oh wait, we came from an aquatic ape. That explains why babies know how to swim. See? Evolution explains everything, if you don't mind switching paradigms occasionally.

Rad

wade-w · 06-12-2003, 10:29 PM

If any of you want to discuss evolution or creationism, there is an entire forum dedicated to that. This is not the place for it.

xsquid · 06-13-2003, 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by Radorth
We could not possibly have evolved from apes. They are far more civilized toward each other.

I'll agree with that latter statement, Rad. Apes don't build cities, they don't kill except in self-defense, and they don't sit up all night discussing their "obligations" to God.

If you believe we did evolve from apes, the future must look utterly hopesless.

Well, for you, maybe...

It's been all downhill ever since Neanderthal. Oh wait, we came from an aquatic ape. That explains why babies know how to swim. See? Evolution explains everything, if you don't mind switching paradigms occasionally.

Rad

I'll second wade-w's advice here.
Just for fun, let's see you weigh in on the so-called AntiChrist's so-called appeal. Maybe it'll even get this thread back on course. Yeah, right...

hezekiah jones · 06-13-2003, 06:32 AM

Originally posted by wade-w
If any of you want to discuss evolution or creationism, there is an entire forum dedicated to that. This is not the place for it.

Radorth feels safer making his ludicrous pronouncements here, because he knows it's off topic, and no one will get a chance to call him on the carpet. He actually did start a thread in E/C once, but it was just a troll and he quickly scurried away.

And searches for specific ancestors are not "switching paradigms": evolutionary biology is the paradigm, and the debates take place within it. Sorry for the interruption - back to the antichrists.

hezekiah jones · 06-13-2003, 06:47 AM

By the way has anyone mentioned the fact that there is no "Antichrist" in the Bible, but rather many "antichrists" in the Epistles of John, all of whom were alive at the time those epistles were written, whoever they were?

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06-12-2003, 07:45 PM	#104
Spaz Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: 6th Circle of Hell Posts: 1,093	Poor Magus, I'm sorry you feel so bad about being human, but the good news is that you probably have plenty of years to figure out that you're just deluding yourself (Unless of course you have some medical condition that you can't fix yourself, then you might need treatment). Tons of people here didn't deconvert until far into their lives, so you still have some hope. Just stop and think about it for a couple minutes, it'll click. People are very interesting animals, we've developed so much intellectually that we feel the need to deny that we're animals...

06-12-2003, 08:31 PM	#105
Rational BAC Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Tampa Bay area Posts: 3,471	Magus getting ganged up on pretty good here. So have decided to get out of this one. I am always for the underdog in any contest in an emotional sense. And I don't believe in "piling on". So forget my earlier question Magus. It wasn't really that important anyway. Will do that one another time. Take care Magus. We are really both on the same side, you know.

06-12-2003, 10:24 PM	#106
Radorth Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,872	We could not possibly have evolved from apes. They are far more civilized toward each other. If you believe we did evolve from apes, the future must look utterly hopesless. It's been all downhill ever since Neanderthal. Oh wait, we came from an aquatic ape. That explains why babies know how to swim. See? Evolution explains everything, if you don't mind switching paradigms occasionally. Rad

06-12-2003, 10:29 PM	#107
wade-w Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Silver City, New Mexico Posts: 1,872	If any of you want to discuss evolution or creationism, there is an entire forum dedicated to that. This is not the place for it.

06-13-2003, 06:32 AM	#109
hezekiah jones Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: WI Posts: 4,357	Originally posted by wade-w If any of you want to discuss evolution or creationism, there is an entire forum dedicated to that. This is not the place for it. Radorth feels safer making his ludicrous pronouncements here, because he knows it's off topic, and no one will get a chance to call him on the carpet. He actually did start a thread in E/C once, but it was just a troll and he quickly scurried away. And searches for specific ancestors are not "switching paradigms": evolutionary biology is the paradigm, and the debates take place within it. Sorry for the interruption - back to the antichrists.

06-13-2003, 06:47 AM	#110
hezekiah jones Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: WI Posts: 4,357	By the way has anyone mentioned the fact that there is no "Antichrist" in the Bible, but rather many "antichrists" in the Epistles of John, all of whom were alive at the time those epistles were written, whoever they were?

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