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Old 01-18-2003, 06:34 AM   #61
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Radorth, the issue here is really quite simple.

You have stated that a "True Christian" cannot cease to be one.

This is pure fiction.

And this is clear from your own inability to define what a True Christian is. There is no definition of "True Christian" which prevents someone with that belief from becoming an atheist, except one: the retroactive, tautological definition of a True Christian as someone who HAS NOT become an atheist.

If two identical twins hold identical Christian beliefs, and one of them later becomes an atheist, you are prepared to label the other a "True Christian".

Even YOU might become an atheist one day, Radorth. Will you then claim that you were NEVER a True Christian?
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Old 01-18-2003, 08:35 AM   #62
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You have stated that a "True Christian" cannot cease to be one.

This is pure fiction.


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You have stated that a "True Christian" cannot cease to be one.
Yes I did.

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This is pure fiction.
I guess you believe God saves and loses people at will. I don't agree, and neither does the scripture, which is notably sparse in my detractors' posts, except where dredged up for personal attacks. (And assertions that good works can save anyone). I do thank them for the golden opportunities to vindicate the facts though.

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And this is clear from your own inability to define what a True Christian is.
I did define it, with specifics. No one argued with it either, as I recall.

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There is no definition of "True Christian" which prevents someone with that belief from becoming an atheist,
In mind yes. In heart no.

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Old 01-18-2003, 08:44 AM   #63
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I'm currently involved in a much more interesting but extremely time consuming discussion in PD. You have basically ignored all my points, and focused on your persecution complex. There is no point in trying to explaining everything to you if you ignore the explanations and then repeat your silly assertions. As I've already said, forgive me if I no longer wish to teach you how to tie your own shoelaces.
More crumbs from the high table of one who

Accuses me of "smearing" people while calling me a messenger of Satan

Knows all about my motives, but says I can't know anything about anyone elses. (not that I made wild assertions about anyone's motives)

Can't locate two sentences from me (or Paul, come to think of it) to back up his slander.

Insists all problems and miscommunications are my fault.

Yep, it pretty much came out a Rad witch-hunt by hypocritical accusers, led by a former "true Christian."

C.S. Lewis hit it right on the nose. "The more you need it, the less you can do it."

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Old 01-18-2003, 08:49 AM   #64
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Another lie, however inadvertant. I never said all unbelievers go to hell, not once ever, in my 5000+ posts on the Secweb. In fact I believe anyone who "thirsts after righteousness" will be saved or "filled" if you like.
An eternity with you...that fits my definition of 'hell'.
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I'm currently involved in a much more interesting but extremely time consuming discussion in PD. You have basically ignored all my points, and focused on your persecution complex. There is no point in trying to explaining everything to you if you ignore the explanations and then repeat your silly assertions. As I've already said, forgive me if I no longer wish to teach you how to tie your own shoelaces.

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Thanks for another gratuitous insult, which is all you ever have time for apparently. Not to worry, unless we both love Jesus. I'll be in the basement of heaven anyway, and given you are sinless compared to me, I'm sure you'll be upstairs.

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Thanks for another gratuitous insult, which is all you ever have time for apparently.
They go well with your nonsensical rambling and evasions of other people's points, don't they? :-D Speaking of time, I guess you just haven't had the time to respond to that thread in the evolution forum that you've been ignoring. Not that I blame you. If people had battered me there as badly as they battered you, I probably wouldn't want to go back, either.
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I guess you have time for off-topic, baiting posts as well. I misspoke.

You mean the thread where I was asked to point out assertions evolutionists which Darwin said would be "fatal to my theory."? All I saw was damage control. But at least they admitted Darwin was wrong.

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I guess you have time for off-topic, baiting posts as well. I misspoke.

You mean the thread where I was asked to point out assertions evolutionists which Darwin said would be "fatal to my theory."? All I saw was damage control. But at least they admitted Darwin was wrong.

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Damage control? ROFLMAO.

The fact is you tucked your tail between your legs and ran from that thread as fast as you can. Meanwhile, people continue making points against your BS in it, while you're nowhere to be found.
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If I wasn't called to so many gratuitous witch-hunts and smear campaigns I could respond. But I'm sure the choir will take your word for it. You count on it, which is why you never provide any examples.

You know, all folks have to do to make "the problems with Radorth" go away is just agree to disagree and stop misquoting and insulting me. I would then have no reason at all to hold up mirrors, would I?

How unfortunate that only one brave moderator put a stop to some of this nonsense. It's the way of the world- the good people do too little and the bad ones get away with too much. And virtually no good deed goes unpunished.

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