Corona688

Is there a spiritual spark in a dog? A mouse? A water bear? A virus? A prion? Why or why not? I don't care what an ancient book written with no knowledge of modern science says. Why do theists always quote some ancient book of superstition rather than actual evidence when I ask for evidence? It's very fruistrating... How do you know all this about something you cannot see or measure? Scratch that. How can something that is nonmaterial have a physical size? I strongly suspect that these past life experiments are not experiments in any meaning of the word, but seeing as you haven't quoted any actual EVIDENCE here in the first place, I can't know even that. Could you point me to these studies? So when you become a true guru, your body dies? Please provide some evidence, any evidence at all, for anything you say. If you have any.

Aravnah Ornan

I agree that once I die, I shall not get any diseases anymore and that my "material body so full of problems will exist no more." But I don't need to believe in a "spiritual body" to understand that. There is another, far simpler explanation that takes into account all of the evidence. Would you care to guess what that might be?

Where I live, the eggs in the supermarkets are unfertilized.

virtual-guru

These experiments have been done scientifically,have you gone to the web to see? The guru also dies,but if he's a pure devotee,he goes back to the spiritual world.
It's only by devotional service that you will discover the existence of Krishna. Millions of speculations will NEVER get you anywhere!
So why don't you try chanting?????(HARE KRISHNA)

This material world is full of miseries! This is evident! How to get out? This should be the approach. You are forced to work! Though you'd prefer to be in a tropical country on the beach...
You'll be forced to leave this body,though you'd prefer to enjoy your accumulated wealth...Death happens so suddenly...(wealthy Princess Diana!!) Can you see love? Can you see hate?Can you see radio waves?So many things we cannot see,but we know they exist.

The sages of India have concluded that all material manifestations are temporary whil spiritual ones are eternal



mcremo

virtual-guru

Still,there full of cholesterol!!!

Bye!

Aravnah Ornan

I must say, virtual-guru, that you certainly like to backpedal.

It evidently matters greatly to you.

You've just proved my point and disproved your own.

Yes. Have you studied the Qur'an? The Book of Mormon? The Apocrypha? How about the Popul Vuh? If you genuinely understand the reasons why you reject all of those other holy books, you'll understand the reasons why I reject the Vedas.

More backpedaling. Your original argument about "future chickens" had nothing to do with cholesterol, and you know it.

I trust you're aware that many Christians use exactly the same argument about their deity.

Corona688

Yes. I found nothing but unsubstantiated crackpottery. I was hoping that you could do better. The spiritual world is an invention created to intimidate and control people. That's what every other religion in the world says about their gods. We are both atheists; I merely believe in one god fewer than you do. The material world's not that bad, really. It's all we got, anyway. I'd rather not waste my time chanting hare krishna to a nonexistent deity that never answers. Funny how they never found any actual evidence for that. Believing so doesn't make it so.

JB01

Technically, since he seems to be some sort of Hindu, it's possible that you believe in several fewer gods than he does.

RED DAVE

HARE KRISHNA HARE KRISHNA
KRISHNA KRISHNA HARE HARE
HARE RAMA HARE RAMA
RAMA RAMA HARE HARE



It worked. Everybody, it worked. I mean it really worked. I can't get over it that it worked.



RED DAVE

virtual-guru

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Corona688
[B]Yes

Hello!

According to the B.Gita,there are 2 kinds of individuals:divine and demoniac.
The divine person or aryas are those who follow vedic culture,in harmony with nature,obeying the laws of God.When such persons lead society,the results is peace and genuine prosperity.

The demoniac or asuras are those who refuse the existence of God and His laws-In control of society,they destroy mother nature by exploiting her as much as possible,causing pollution,conflicts and diseases.

The devotee is respectful toward nature by taking only what is necessary for living,not causing distress to other living entities,eating their flesh,thus disturbing their evolution.The meat induatry is one of the main cause of pollution and famine in the world (nitrates from xs excreta from intensive farming render underground water undrinkable-80% of grains used to feed cattle,could nourrish 20 times earth's population.

The devotee eats only pure natural food(organic) as pesticides cause unnessary killing of living entities,including humans.Scientifically,such food leads to good health,clear mind.

The demon enjoys food of tamasic kind.This include meat,fish and eggs(even unfertilised,it's like eating the menstrual substances of a chicken-yak!) Such food lead to hospital and premature death.Some fish and other creatures act as ocean cleaners:eating them also take you to hospital

The devotee does not take intoxicants(alcool,drugs-tea-cofee) Such expensive items are scientifically dangerous for health. They also cause accidents,bring chaos to married life and you as tax payer finance the catastrophic results. Dealers and addicts are DANGEROUS to society(crimes and hold ups) and for innocent drivers(it could be you next time)

Demons are greedy about money. Such vice leads to many ailments of society. Businessmen do not hesitate to robotise factories,causing unemployment. They also close businesses to open in 3rd world countries. YOU pay for people on the dole! With xs money in their pocket,they go to prostitutes,spreading aids worldwide.The weapons industry conspire to create conflicts worldwide(peace is not in their agenda) During your holiday in Egypt You can be kidnapped by terrorists( they can also fly through your window in a jet!) Industrialists do not hesitate to pollute underground water you drink.

Economy,vedic style,is based on natural agriculture and cow protection. Organic agriculture require a lot of manpower(no more unemployed) Milk is beneficial to fine brain tissues. There is no need for chemical fertilisers and pesticides as a healthy soil gives healthy products. Needing no expensive fashionclothing,he requires not much revenue.His life is less stressful,and he has more time to dedicate his time for cultural and spiriritual activities .Other trades allowed: handicrafts,handloom,care of cows and forests(unemployment solved) There's also an army to protect the Royal family,priests and population against INFIDELS!

Leaders of demonic tend to speculate a lot about other planets-with YOUR hard earned money! They want to colonise Mars,the Moon etc. (other billions of dollars wasted)The devotee knows it's impossible without a specific body By worshipping the demigod in charge of other planets,one may go there at the moment of death...

So,knowing where you stand,and having defeated all your arguments,I say: CHECKMATE and good-bye!!!!

Corona688

So, from the fact that I ask for evidence that your god exists, you somehow know I am a greedy prostitute-using warmongering demon businessman? You're not speaking enlightenment, you're speaking slander. I am not greedy. I do not use prostitutes. I am not a warmongerer. I demand a retraction.

Some actual evidence of anything you say would also be nice. Saying so doesn't make it so; the universe does as it damn well pleases, no matter what we believe.