MortalWombat

No, but didn't Bush actually pledge to "bring honor and integrity back to the White House" after all of the lies and immorality of Clinton?

Jat

Remember, his father was high in the pols as well after the first Gulf War and that didn't help him at all. Maybe the one's who actually vote aren't the stupid ones? Maybe that is why jr. bypassed them in the last election.

Joe6Pack

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2003May7.html

John Hancock

New Republic Editor? Why not get the opinion of Dick Cheney he's a member of The Project For a New American Century also.

Martin Buber

Ultron

The point is that Cheney doesn't have any current ties to Halliburton. That is a conflict of interest. Are all former employees of Halliburton, Boeing, Jet Propulsion Laboratories, etc unable to run for office just because they once worked for a company with close financial ties to the federal govt?

If Bill Clinton worked for Texaco just before assuming office, would that have made him inelligible to run for President?

The SwampThing

No, but if he started to include Texaco in every government deal, that would read very suspicious, no?
And that�s exactlly what Bush is doing.
We have Dick Cheney with previous ties to Halliburton;
We have Condoleeza Rice with previous ties to the oil industry, including a full oil tanker named after her. After she took into office with the rest of the Bushites, they changed the name of the ship;
We have Gorge Dubya Bush, with close ties to the oil industry, much of it coming from his father�s strings;
We have Rumsfeld doing publicity stunts for the media;
We have Powell turning coats on everybody and admiting the lies are OK with him;
We have all of them together in this PNAC crap;
And it goes on and on...
Then we have a war on a rich oil country, for all the wrong reasons and using low down dirty tricks to get it done, including forgering documents, lie and deceipt, plagiurism, and shoddy intel!
And then we see Halliburton moving in, the oil being controlled and prefered over the protection of the citizens of Iraq, wich goes totally against the main reason they announced this war to be about: Liberation and WMDs.
If this was about liberation, why were the troops protecting oil fields and the Oil Ministery, instead of protecting the people of Iraq?

That�s why this whole thing stinks like dirty pampers!! The US has a real corrupted president sitting at the table of power, surrounded by criminals and low-life crooks, each trying to get their hands on a bigger piece of the Iraqi cake!
And this, my friend, is more than enough to impeach a president.
If a blowjob was bad, how does this current crisis rates in the chart?
Does it rate "Kind of bad" or "The shit hits the fan"?
From where i�m sitting, this looks even worst than any Watergate or Iran-Contras, by a whole lot!!
But George "master of disaster" Bush is still confortable in the chair of power... Howcome?
Howcome the american people doesn�t realize the shit kickin�trouble they are in, with this guy? And why aren�t they doing anything about it?
If Dubya had some dumb blond secretary or trainee give him a blowjob, like Clinton, how much time do you think he would last in office??
And more important, why is it that most americans rate a blowjob as bigger impeachment material than a war on a country and the total disregard for the international Law??
Get your priorities straight, ok?
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Ultron

You keep mentioning "previous ties." I rest my case.

Evangelion

I'm sure this is just a series of rather unfortunate coincidences.

Mike S.

Exactly, Swampthing gets it. The big picture is what is being talked about. The fact is that everything this administration has done is dishonest and suspicious, the forest is rotten and some people keep focusing on single trees claiming "well, if you look at it in this light it might not be all that bad".

If you don't think Cheney getting a $20 million retirement package after he announced he would be running mate of the republican favorite is linked to the contracts Halliburton keeps getting in secret bids, fine. Nobody can really know if his loyalty has been bought, one can only draw conclusions from the actions of the administration in which he is the second (or first) most important person in. My point is still simply this: the sum of all the deceit is overwhelming (I am sure you all can make your own list), why do so many still defend him so vigorously? People seem to froth with rage at any questioning of his integrity and my question remains how much deception will these apologists make excuses for before they finally cast some doubt on Bush's agenda?

It seems from reading this board that Fatherphil, Leonarde and possibly Ultron are the least questioning of the Bush regime so could any of them answer the question if they read this.

Thanks in advance.

Evangelion

It is not just the fact that Bush is popularly believed to be a weiner. It is the fact that he has actually been caught weining.

Let's be frank about this: he weins.