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Old 07-17-2003, 11:19 PM   #241
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You don't understand my argument well enough to find fault with it
NOBODY understands your argument - and you don't want us to, either.

I'm not even sure you're making an argument, since you refuse to say whether or not you believe there's a link between homosexuality and pedophilia.
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NOBODY understands your argument - and you don't want us to, either.

I'm not even sure you're making an argument, since you refuse to say whether or not you believe there's a link between homosexuality and pedophilia.
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Do you really think he believes we are decieved by his responses, or do you think he is aware of exactly how obvious he is being?
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Old 07-18-2003, 08:01 AM   #243
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Has he ever had a reasonable, clear, logical argument?
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Old 07-18-2003, 10:48 AM   #244
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Has he ever had a reasonable, clear, logical argument?
Not that I've seen in this thread.
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Has he ever had a reasonable, clear, logical argument?
Cupcake occassionally makes a very good point, but even when he does he's careful not to be too clear, reasonable or logical about it. It's the whole "intellectualism is bad" thing. He is consistent, points for that.
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Old 07-18-2003, 11:46 AM   #246
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You don't understand my argument well enough to find fault with it - and you don't want to, either.
Could you please explain to me, then, how you are not committing the fallacy of presupposition?

If you think that I don't understand your argument, could you please lay your argument out in a syllogism format, so that I could better understand?
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Old 07-18-2003, 02:06 PM   #247
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Could you please explain to me, then, how you are not committing the fallacy of presupposition?
If you mean that I think anyone in favor of homosexual rights is necessarily an advocate of pedophilia, that isn't what I said. I merely pointed out that there are many who draw the parallel, and that they would do themselves a favor by disowning apologists for pedophilia. Even Dane Hall, who would presumably think me a homophobic bigot, appears to see that much.

For crying out loud, what do they have to lose?
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Old 07-18-2003, 02:14 PM   #248
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For crying out loud, what do they have to lose?
What do they have to gain?

Homophobic bigots will be homophobic bigots irrespective of what is said or done by those with reason and compassion. There is always a rationalization for that type of hatred; and disavowing pedophilia is not going to make bigots any less bigoted
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Old 07-18-2003, 04:09 PM   #249
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What do they have to gain?
I want all you homosexual rights advocates who are clownishly amazed that anyone thinks you guys are pushers of perversion to look in the mirror and say, "We have nothing to gain by dissociating ourselves from NAMBLA".

Then tell yourselves you don't look really, really stupid.
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I want all you homosexual rights advocates who are clownishly amazed that anyone thinks you guys are pushers of perversion to look in the mirror and say, "We have nothing to gain by dissociating ourselves from NAMBLA".

Then tell yourselves you don't look really, really stupid.
Tell me, yguy. Would it convince you? Someone, deep down, I doubt it.
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