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BigBlue2 · 05-09-2003, 05:51 AM

Well, the Queen will always do what the Prime Minister recommends. Now all Johnny has to do is find some courage somewhere and fire off the letter to dear ol' Betty.

After all, he can always put Hollingworth's appointment down to an "error of judgement".

Evangelion · 05-09-2003, 05:57 AM

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Well, the Queen will always do what the Prime Minister recommends.

Oh, really? Tell that to Whitlam.

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Now all Johnny has to do is find some courage somewhere and fire off the letter to dear ol' Betty.

Yes... the "finding courage" part could be a bit of a problem, I admit.

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After all, he can always put Hollingworth's appointment down to an "error of judgement".

...on Hollingworth's part, no less!

kwigibo · 05-09-2003, 06:46 AM

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Originally posted by Evangelion

Yes... the "finding courage" part could be a bit of a problem, I admit.

Maybe if Bush were to say he should do it...

Evangelion · 05-09-2003, 10:39 AM

Yeah, Howard could probably do it "with a little help from my friends..."

johngalt · 05-09-2003, 11:23 AM

Sounds almost like our president, using religious mumbo jumbo in most of his speeches.

The Cromwell Institute · 05-09-2003, 09:44 PM

I wouldn't really mind Hollingworth's self-comparison to his Latin American Lord Jesus if the comparison had some grounding in reality. A part of me wants to see this worthless ally and protector of pedophiles [and he is possibly a rapist to boot] nailed to a cross.

The hubris of this cretin is astounding. He's not even facing any punishment, for fuck's sake! He is only being asked by the majority of Australians to resign from an important office [that he never should have held in the first place, being an archbishop and all], because he has condoned and covered up child abuse that was within his power [not to mention his duty] to stop.

He is a disgrace to Australia and should be publicly flogged with a cat-o-nine tails.

Answerer · 05-09-2003, 10:47 PM

Guys, I heard rumours that the former Archbishop is a rapist. How far is this allegation true?

kwigibo · 05-09-2003, 11:18 PM

According to the man himself, the victim's allegation cannot be true because he was not present at the camp where the incident occurred. Whether he's lying or not, i'm in no place to assume.

Evangelion · 05-10-2003, 12:01 AM

I'm with kwigbo on this one. In fact, I'll take it a step further.

I don't believe he's guilty of rape. Even the circumstantial evidence doesn't stack up.

The Cromwell Institute · 05-10-2003, 03:15 AM

Unfortunately the great lout is only facing civil proceedings re. the rape issue. His guilt or innocence will only be determined on the "balance of probabilities" rather than the criminal standard of proof: "beyond reasonable doubt".

I say unfortunately only because if it was a criminal case he would have been arrested. Then there'd be no way he'd be able to hold the office of GG, regardless of whether he raped the woman or not. Despite having clearly stated earlier that I despise Peter Hollingworth, I would not like to see him be found guilty of rape if the evidence does not call for it.

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05-09-2003, 05:51 AM	#11
BigBlue2 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 6,666	Well, the Queen will always do what the Prime Minister recommends. Now all Johnny has to do is find some courage somewhere and fire off the letter to dear ol' Betty. After all, he can always put Hollingworth's appointment down to an "error of judgement".

05-09-2003, 10:39 AM	#14
Evangelion Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Walsall, UK Posts: 1,490	Yeah, Howard could probably do it "with a little help from my friends..."

05-09-2003, 11:23 AM	#15
johngalt Regular Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 204	Sounds almost like our president, using religious mumbo jumbo in most of his speeches.

05-09-2003, 09:44 PM	#16
The Cromwell Institute Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Australia Posts: 766	I wouldn't really mind Hollingworth's self-comparison to his Latin American Lord Jesus if the comparison had some grounding in reality. A part of me wants to see this worthless ally and protector of pedophiles [and he is possibly a rapist to boot] nailed to a cross. The hubris of this cretin is astounding. He's not even facing any punishment, for fuck's sake! He is only being asked by the majority of Australians to resign from an important office [that he never should have held in the first place, being an archbishop and all], because he has condoned and covered up child abuse that was within his power [not to mention his duty] to stop. He is a disgrace to Australia and should be publicly flogged with a cat-o-nine tails.

05-09-2003, 10:47 PM	#17
Answerer Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 3,956	Guys, I heard rumours that the former Archbishop is a rapist. How far is this allegation true?

05-09-2003, 11:18 PM	#18
kwigibo Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Gold Coast, QLD, Australia Posts: 5,814	According to the man himself, the victim's allegation cannot be true because he was not present at the camp where the incident occurred. Whether he's lying or not, i'm in no place to assume.

05-10-2003, 12:01 AM	#19
Evangelion Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Walsall, UK Posts: 1,490	I'm with kwigbo on this one. In fact, I'll take it a step further. I don't believe he's guilty of rape. Even the circumstantial evidence doesn't stack up.

05-10-2003, 03:15 AM	#20
The Cromwell Institute Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Australia Posts: 766	Unfortunately the great lout is only facing civil proceedings re. the rape issue. His guilt or innocence will only be determined on the "balance of probabilities" rather than the criminal standard of proof: "beyond reasonable doubt". I say unfortunately only because if it was a criminal case he would have been arrested. Then there'd be no way he'd be able to hold the office of GG, regardless of whether he raped the woman or not. Despite having clearly stated earlier that I despise Peter Hollingworth, I would not like to see him be found guilty of rape if the evidence does not call for it.

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