Buffman

Dark Cobra

First, please allow me to present my "excuses."

I have not read all the posts. Nor I am professionally qualified to offer you meaningful insights into the nature of human sensory perceptions. I am not even sure why I am attempting to communicate with you because I am four times as old as you and very much conditioned by the experiences of that age difference.

Second, I lived in Bellevue in the 1970's and both of my sons attended grammar school there. Perhaps of general interest to those who have not lived in "Aksarben," my sons eventually received full academic scholarships to RPI and Rice.

Third, my undergraduate degree major was Biology...with enough credit hours for minors in Chemistry, Psychology, Sociology and Education.

The preceding was merely my attempt to capture your interest to read further because I found this remark rather intriguing:

I'm gaining more tolerance of people as time goes on. The above was just a description of how I turned out this way (hating pop culture and being untrusting of attractive people).

Might I suggest that you "first" dedicate some effort to gaining a better understanding of, and tolerance for, yourself rather than others. To aid in accomplishing this, you need to acquire the most current, accurate, information available about the bio-chemo-electrical interface of the brain-mind interface and how genetics and the environment are integrated into human development.

A good place to begin your exploration would be to go to the URL I will provide below, browse through the list of subjects, select those that interest you (with "Neuroscience" of particular value), and then sign-up to receive the copies of their, hopefully still free, various catalogs. Just reading through the synopses of each book/journal/article they have for sale can be stimulating and informative.

http://mitpress.mit.edu/

The more accurate knowledge you can gain concerning how and why you think and function as you do, the better you will understand and appreciate why others think and act as they do. I believe this might help you to put a better perspective around your current views concerning physical attractiveness and intellectual prowess. (The best way to read the minds of others is to be able to accurately read your own.)

Stiletto One

Going from top to bottom:

I have a girlfriend, despite being ugly and a cocky bastard. Ah well. I just happen to not be trying to get in her pants. I admit that the generic "relationships shouldn't be solely about sex" comment was kinda random, but I was in rant mode. Sue me.

Why do people have to have exactly the same tastes as you? And I actually know quite a few people (living in Charlotte, NC; if Bellevue's a tiny city/town, that complicates things) who derive sadistic pleasure from making adults look like idiots, from the safety of their own keyboards. (Read Ender's Game or any of the Shadow series, by Orson Scott Card? )

Among the people here at least (and, honestly, most places I've been with populations greater than about 100,000), there aren't all that many full-blown pop culture drones. Just that at school, a lot of these people are just afraid of being 'uncool', so they keep their actual interests pretty well hidden. I worked with this guy over the summer who, if you didn't get to know him, would probably seem like your typical preppie Backstreet Boy wannabe. Bastard's forgotten more about Linux than I ever knew about DOS. (Bad analogy, but what the hey�it's an example) Most people are at least vaguely worth knowing, even if they aren't the type you'd want to take for friends.

On debate: I have the most fun in debates when I KNOW I'm wrong. Take the stance of "I'm already accepted to be right; YOU have to prove that you're right), and then systematically punch holes in the opposition's arguments. I was able to 'win' a debate when I was stuck with the platform that American cars are better than German ones. Try debating in real life. Make some enemies. Make some friends, while you're at it.

I highly doubt that most teenagers are like the ones depicted in American Pie, especially since that was about as burlesque of a parody as they come. A sizeable portion of teenagers TRY to be that way, though.

Side note: Even if it's not your thing, occasionally take a dose of popular trends, just to make sure you know what you're not liking. It's a useful habit.

Eugenics in the sense that you're removing 'undesirables' from the social ecology. Chances are they're not especially smart anyway, so you could say you're trying to boost the average IQ, or something.

ebolamonger

DarkCobra, you came in here wanting everyone to agree with you that everyone on the planet is a moron and that you will never fall in love with anyone. I'm going out on a limb here, but it seems like you either have low self-esteem or there is something about yourself that you don't like that you think would be an obstacle to people getting to know you. I think you want reassurance that people are morons and that you will not fall in love because you can't face whatever this is---low self-esteem, something you hate about yourself. You want to be the one rejecting people before they have a chance to reject you for whatever reason. I mean, dude. You rejected every female on the planet in your OP.

I know that being smart and lonely is all part of that and I too felt bitter for a long time about not meeting people like me. It is hard to deal with being different. But there is also a sense in all your posts that you want to be the one in charge of the rejecting because it would be too painful to BE rejected. You deliberately misread any posts that give advice about how to reach out to people.

I don't want to sound harsh. I'm the same way. Even though I have a perfect boyfriend, sometimes I have a great fear that he'll suddenly leave me or reject me for whatever reason and I withdraw. I try to push him away first so I am in control of the rejecting. But I'm working on getting over this feeling and taking a risk on trusting him not to push me away. And hey, he is decent and patient, so everything works out.


This just shows me that all you want is for people to validate your rejection of every other human being. I suggest you get counseling to deal with self-esteem or depression issues because you're really being stubborn.

Non-praying Mantis

Actually, what I meant by that comment is this:

Dark Cobra was lamenting on how he couldn't fall in love with women with certain characteristics, and all I was trying to say is that sometimes, you don't make a conscious choice as to whom you fall in love with. Sometimes our "little men" do the deciding for us.

NPM

Non-praying Mantis

No, what I meant was that you don't have to have every relationship with a woman turn into a love relationship. First try to be friends with them. Try to have a good time with them (platonically).

I agree, most teens are being ignorant when they call everything "gay." It bugs me too. However, you could try to educate them about that. But, do be careful not to look like a know-it-all when you do. Most teens do shit like that because of peer pressure. Try listening to them when they are talking with their best friends, not in front of a crowd. Ask them why everything is "gay," and correct their incorrect thinking.

NPM

Dark Cobra

Haven't I already mentioned I have a resistence to that kind of lust?

I've certainly had crushes in the past, but I was able to make myself overcome!

Dark Cobra

I did not mis-read anything.

The first thing I noticed in your post was a strawman, I certainly did not say that everyone on the planet is a moron...!

Perhaps some of what you said is true, but a lot of the time people have characteristics that I just flat out don't like!

Dark Cobra

You think they are intelligent enough to be persuaded by a rational argument? Their friends do it, and that's good enough for them.

Stiletto One

a.) Yes you have. [edited insult - CG]
b.) No, but you have been saying that everyone in your immediate surroundings is unworthy of your attention.
c.) That's a no-brainer. You want to tell us something we don't already know? There will always be assholes�it's your problem to figure out who isn't one.

For one, there you go again, assuming that people who act in the stereotypical teenage modes are just automatically stupid. But you're right, just telling them not to say "gay" to stuff isn't going to work. Then again, why does it matter so much? One of my gay friends calls dumb stuff 'gay' all the time, just out of habit. He's not bothered by it. None of us (me and my other friends in that particular group) are bothered by it. I find it mildly irritating, but it's not worth the energy it would take to bitch about it.