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VonEvilstein · 03-26-2003, 11:21 PM

I reckon there must be loads of them, over here in Europe, but no one really cares enough to ask.

Godless Dave · 03-27-2003, 06:58 AM

You mean when a cricket player gets 18 wickets in an ironmonger or whatever it is they do, he doesn't drop to his knees and genuflect?

VonEvilstein · 03-27-2003, 07:33 AM

GD,

After that "18 wickets in an ironmonger", you owe me a cup of coffee! I'll clean up the mess from my old one myself!

Jimmy Higgins · 03-27-2003, 09:46 AM

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Originally posted by Grizzly
Are Pro-wrestlers considered athletes? Then you could count Jesse "The Mind" Ventura (I think). He's either an athiest or something very similiar......

Maybe Wrestlemania XX could have HBK Shawn Michaels v Jesse Ventura, the winner proves if there is or isn't a god.

You guys forgot about me, the half-ironman triathlete. Oh wait, it was prominent. Its funny. I'm sure at some time or another runners and triathletes are asking god(s) for energy during a race. The thought never crossed my mind. I just tend to pass people.

It was especially telling at the Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame Triathlon in Cleveland, how brutal it can be. I saw a couple of people who had wrecked in serious trouble, ie very very badly broken bones. Those were very troubling images for me, it did break my concentration for a bit. When I see that, I can't help but think that god isn't helping anyone out there.

openeyes · 03-27-2003, 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by VonEvilstein
I reckon there must be loads of them, over here in Europe, but no one really cares enough to ask.

I was thinking the same thing. I suppose to your average American, Europeon athletes don't really count anyway.

(BTW, whether pro-wrestlers like Jesse are considered athletes in a separate discussion. (I'd say no.) He certainly is not terribly athletic looking now. Probably was in his best shape as a Navy SEAL.)

Equal_Mark · 03-27-2003, 01:17 PM

Didn't Jesse cause a stir a few years ago when he stated something to the effect that Religion was a crutch for weak willed individuals?

Mageth · 03-27-2003, 01:27 PM

Didn't Jesse cause a stir a few years ago when he stated something to the effect that Religion was a crutch for weak willed individuals?

Perhaps, but don't confuse religion with belief in a god.

openeyes · 03-27-2003, 01:33 PM

I'd answer you about Ventura, but were getting off thread so maybe some other time. I believe it's been covered also in past threads.

Deacon · 03-27-2003, 01:56 PM

HBO's Real Sports did a piece on this about 6 months ago. They featured offensive lineman Glenn Parker as one of the few atheist football players in the NFL and he claimed he was chastised because of it.

JGL53 · 03-27-2003, 06:50 PM

I read a body-building book a few years back written by Arnold
'Mr. Republican' Swarzenegger (sp?) that had one chapter wherein he discussed his philosophy of life.

He said something to the effect that religious belief was a waste of time and that a person's success was based solely on his own efforts and not on any supernatural intervention. (I don't know if he's still of this opinion now, but I was pleasantly surprised to read this at the time.)

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03-26-2003, 11:21 PM	#11
VonEvilstein Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: .nl Posts: 822	I reckon there must be loads of them, over here in Europe, but no one really cares enough to ask.

03-27-2003, 06:58 AM	#12
Godless Dave Contributor Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: With 10,000 lakes who needs a coast? Posts: 10,762	You mean when a cricket player gets 18 wickets in an ironmonger or whatever it is they do, he doesn't drop to his knees and genuflect?

03-27-2003, 07:33 AM	#13
VonEvilstein Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: .nl Posts: 822	GD, After that "18 wickets in an ironmonger", you owe me a cup of coffee! I'll clean up the mess from my old one myself!

03-27-2003, 01:17 PM	#16
Equal_Mark Regular Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Exit 109 Joisey Posts: 135	Didn't Jesse cause a stir a few years ago when he stated something to the effect that Religion was a crutch for weak willed individuals?

03-27-2003, 01:27 PM	#17
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	Didn't Jesse cause a stir a few years ago when he stated something to the effect that Religion was a crutch for weak willed individuals? Perhaps, but don't confuse religion with belief in a god.

03-27-2003, 01:33 PM	#18
openeyes Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Minnesota Posts: 4,215	I'd answer you about Ventura, but were getting off thread so maybe some other time. I believe it's been covered also in past threads.

03-27-2003, 01:56 PM	#19
Deacon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 620	HBO's Real Sports did a piece on this about 6 months ago. They featured offensive lineman Glenn Parker as one of the few atheist football players in the NFL and he claimed he was chastised because of it.

03-27-2003, 06:50 PM	#20
JGL53 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Outer Mongolia Posts: 4,091	I read a body-building book a few years back written by Arnold 'Mr. Republican' Swarzenegger (sp?) that had one chapter wherein he discussed his philosophy of life. He said something to the effect that religious belief was a waste of time and that a person's success was based solely on his own efforts and not on any supernatural intervention. (I don't know if he's still of this opinion now, but I was pleasantly surprised to read this at the time.)

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