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Old 03-07-2003, 12:51 PM   #11
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Actually I was just thinking about another interesting aspect of boobies.

Many people don't realize that the "sexualization" of breasts is largely cultural.

In Papua New Guinea (I lived there for several years as an MK) the female breast is not considered a "sexual organ". The women (from birth to old age) go topless everywhere. HOWEVER, the female LEG - particularly from the knee up - is highly sexualized and the women wear long skirts at all times. Even pants are verboten because they show the contour of the leg and buttocks.

That being said, apparently males are not innately born being sexually attracted to boobs. Cultural conditioning seems to definitely be a factor.

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Is it possible that they are considered attractive because they are the food-makers? It is instincutal for people to be drawn to them, because those that weren't starved to death and got wiped from the gene pool. I'm saying it wouldn't matter WHAT they looked like, they would have been considered attractive regardless. But that argument requires that humans (and boobs) evolved through natural selection and weren't "created" by god. So if boobs were created by god and did not evolve, I will concede that your argument stands, and said god was likely a man.
Very good points. Although I would say that either way, natural selection, or creation, it's still all about the boobies. Even if it is because it is were we get our food from.

But back on the serious side (yes this really has one). I truly believe that if one were to follow the xians' belief, these assertions of mine make whole heck of a lot of sense.

For instance, the Bible has mentioned man lying with another man, but this isn't a damn thing in there about a woman lying with another woman. More interesting points.


This all actually leads to one of my broader points. That is naturally common amongst many here. Which is that if you follow the Xian's faith, the way it reads in the Bible anyway, God has a whole heck of a lot of human attributes. Certainly, they are behaviors that are comprehensible by man. Which is odd considering he is supposed to be way above our understanding.
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Actually I was just thinking about another interesting aspect of boobies.

Good points. And it is the reason I point to the Xian God (or the others that are close) being male. I think it has to be in that context for my assertion to actually hold up. I was conveniently leaving out National Geographic.

Matter of fact, if you ponder that issue, what would a Xian missionary try to do there? I bet you anything they would want the women to cover them up. Or would at least feel embarassed, and claim it is their supposed "ignorance of God" that causes the natives to not be ashamed. So again, the religion wants to cover them up.

In other words, I agree it is largely a manifestation of culture, albeit a longstanding one.
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For instance, the Bible has mentioned man lying with another man, but this isn't a damn thing in there about a woman lying with another woman. More interesting points.
I use this one a lot! Heehee! Also, I believe it says something to the affect of "a man shall not lay with another man as he lays with a woman." So taken at face value, I think completely homosexual men are in the clear, too. Just not bisexual men. Or if you really want to be nit-picky, you can take "as" to mean "at the same time" rather than "in the same way." So as long as you aren't a man having a three-way with another man and a woman, you are in good shape. If they can twist and interpret the scriptures to suit their purposes, why can't we?

Back on the topic of breasts, one of the articles I was reading was talking specifically about the social taboo of breast-feeding children up to the ages of 4 or 5. The benefits of doing so are astronomical, but it is practially unheard of in Western society. One of the reasons is that once a child (especially a male child) gets to the age of 2 or 3 (?) he can understand what his mouth is attached to, and possibly remember it into adulthood, and at that point he might as well be having sex with his mom. This is the kind of thinking that comes from considering the breast a sex organ, instead of remembering its intended purpose.

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Back on the topic of breasts, one of the articles I was reading was talking specifically about the social taboo of breast-feeding children up to the ages of 4 or 5. The benefits of doing so are astronomical, but it is practially unheard of in Western society. One of the reasons is that once a child (especially a male child) gets to the age of 2 or 3 (?) he can understand what his mouth is attached to, and possibly remember it into adulthood, and at that point he might as well be having sex with his mom. This is the kind of thinking that comes from considering the breast a sex organ, instead of remembering its intended purpose.

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Which makes me wonder what caused it to become the object of sexual interest in the first place. Naturally this is a chicken or egg topic, but interesting nonetheless.
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Which makes me wonder what caused it to become the object of sexual interest in the first place. Naturally this is a chicken or egg topic, but interesting nonetheless.
I can't say for men, outside of the food-comes-from-there theory, but on women it is one hell of an erogenous zone. teehee.
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I can't say for men, outside of the food-comes-from-there theory, but on women it is one hell of an erogenous zone. teehee.
I am glad you mentioned that. I was hoping someone would point it out. Because, even though some cultures do not have a taboo about covering up TAB (The Almighty Boob, no association with the soft-drink) I am sure there are many that still find it pleasurable. Which indicates are attention to it as a sexual organ is due to the fact it makes some women "feel all tingly".

Granted, the woman's "tingly" feeling is largely psychological, so 'round we go.


Oh and more set of "these" just for good measure.
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If God wasn't male he wouldn't have such a huge circumcised cock. Come on people, get it together. Big God, Big Dick. What's left to discuss?

Upon further thought, let's hope that God isn't a woman. T'ain't nothin' good about a gigantic sized gaping Box.

Have I mentioned that I should go home yet?
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Actually I was just thinking about another interesting aspect of boobies.

Many people don't realize that the "sexualization" of breasts is largely cultural.

I saw a documetary in an antrho class about the New Guinea highlands and the wierd anthropologist concluded that when the females finally appeared to him without their veil (net) he felt accepted into their community.
 
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The fleeting Y chromosome proves that God is male.
 
 

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