Kevin Dorner

So was the Declaration of Independence, but it seems to have been successful regardless.

lcb

so was the Holy Bible. Its the most successful book ever published. (my apologies if i do not reply any more to you, I am not allowed to really debate here-i wish i were!)

Buffman

Icb

I am not allowed to really debate here-i wish i were!)

This is a question. I hope that you are "allowed" to answer. "Does your college have a restriction on the use of its computer system?" (i.e.: No personal messages, only research?)

Toto

lcb (not Icb) has been warned about inappropriate posts that are off topic in the upper forums. He is free to debate anything he wants in RRP, but he won't debate. He just types streams of points he half understands from Christian propaganda (what we refer to as witnessing or preaching), but never actually engages in any real debate or exchange of ideas.

lcb is free to debate church state separation here in connection with Newdow's suit, but not the power of the Holy Bible, fulfilled prophecy, Asian prostitutes, or any of the other subjects he has on his mind.

gilly54

I am looking at this as an optimist. Newdow DID win his case in the 9th Circuit Court. Spotlighting all these religious incursions into government serves to make the politicians, and more importantly, the judges, realize that they have to "clean house", so to speak.

Gilly (wearing her thick rose-tinted glasses)

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lcb

speaking of "winning" and the tactical and strategic calculus...some of you youngins may not remember, but there is a famous picture of a South Vietnamese General executing a captured VietCong infiltrator with a pistol at point blank range, that picture, blown up and shown to the world probably did more damage to the war effort than anyhting else.At the Army War College it is known to this day as the "picture that lost the war".Being a Christian, I won't tell you what the picture that will lose the war for you is.You will find out...soon.

god-free-pen

Icb:

And he huffed, and he puffed, and he huffed and puffed some more but he couldn't blow the house down because it was made of stone.

99Percent

You mean this picture?

Mad Kally

I don't suppose you heard the recently released tapes of Lyndon Johnson saying the whole Viet Nam war was a hopeless cause, but it was too embarrassing for the United States to back out. (The tapes were recorded in 1963) 58,000 kids, average age of 19, died for what? (and that's just the Americans) I don't believe you were in Viet Nam. "Picture that lost the war", what a joke! <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/11/01/60minutes/main316695.shtml" target="_blank"> 60 Minutes story. </a>

Back on topic, I really admire Dr. Newdow for being out there fighting for us!

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ashibaka

Wow, that's so omnious. You sound like a Scientologist or something.

And now, Ashibaka takes you inside the secret Christian conspiracy, the picture that will convert the masses!

Noted Christians such as Jerry Falwell and the Pope have been silent on the topic, but a scoop offhandedly revealed to us by lcb prompted an investigation.

I went undercover and found this picture:



Then again, that might just be a dummy picture to fool me... drat! You know, I bet it was! I shouldn't have trusted an unlocked file cabinet in a Jehovah's Witnesses waiting room. I ought to dig deeper.

Next stop, the Vatican!

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