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Old 08-31-2007, 03:22 PM   #11
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Which one?
To what are you addressing with your question?
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Who made up god depends on which god one was talking about.

Who made up the god described by the Mormon religeon would be Joseph Smith.
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I don't think any one person said "Is there a god?" first. The question came about to explain the unknown...
At least the term God came from interpretation of what is the ultimate cause of existence today. Subjectively some believe the cause is non live while others see the cause as possessing consciousness. God is then an interpretation of that.
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I don't think any one person said "Is there a god?" first. The question came about to explain the unknown...
At least the term God came from interpretation of what is the ultimate cause of existence today. Subjectively some believe the cause is non live while others see the cause as possessing consciousness. God is then an interpretation of that.
Does God exist apart from human counsciousness?
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I was wondering how and why did the question: Is there a God?, first come into the mind of humans? Was it in response to someone saying: "There is a God."? And if so, where did that person come up with it?
One day Thug said to Ugg "Why is the sky blue?" Ugg said "Dunno, must be blue because someone made it blue." Thug replied "What someone?" And voila, God is invented. Or rather, a supernatural entity.

Basically, God is a convienent explanation for things we cannot explain. Why do things fall down, instead of up? Why do people die? Why does water freeze? These are difficult questions, so an individual without the knowledge to answer them will tend to invent explanations, and God is a VERY convienent explanation - He explains everything in one fell swoop.

I've answered your question, now answer mine - Why did different cultures invent DIFFERENT Gods, and different NUMBERS of Gods? If God revealed himself, did he go about revealing himself differently to the Mayans than to the Jews? Why did he evidently reveal himself numerous times to the Greeks, in different forms?

Would you say that, perhaps, some of these visions of God are in fact *not* the result of God revealing himself, but rather simply fictional constructions of the human mind? And if that explanation works for Zeus, why doesn't it work for your God?
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Does christianity answer that question?
Yes, God revealed Himself to man; over and over agian.
There were hundreds of Gods, possibly thousands, at one time, almost every country, every tribe had their Gods. Christ and Allah are two of the last Gods to be fabricated, and many Gods carried out similar actions to them. It is not unusual for Gods to born of virgins, be resurrected, believed to answer prayers, carry out miracles and have a place of bliss called Heaven, these are all common.

Christ became popular as a result of colonisation, wars and slavery. If World War II had turned out differently, you might be propagating the Gods of Shinto or the teachings of Buddhism.

Japan became an economic world power, after being bombed by two atom bombs, without Christ. The Gods of Shinto and Budddhism have helped them a lot.

If the American Indians had better weaponry than the English and the Spanish, then maybe everyone in the West would now be worshipping the Raven or the Coyote.
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Consider the Mog the caveman. He subsists on roots, plants and animals that could be killed with club and stone and yet could kill him equally as well. Countless objects of terror and wonderment surround him. He stands next to rivers with no beginning or end, by bodies of water with one shore. There are beasts mightier than he is. He suffers strange sicknesses. He trembles at the sound of thunder, blinded by the lightning, hiding from a sky that grows black and to him, malicious.

Then, once upon a time, that caveman begged for the protection of the Unknown.

In the long dawn of human awakening, in the midst of pestilence, famine, heat or cold, crouched in dens of darkness, the seeds of superstition were sown in the mind of man. The ancients thoroughly believed that everything happened in reference to him. He believed that by his actions, he could excite the anger, or by his worship placate the wrath, of the Unseen. He resorted to flattery and prayer and sacrifice. He put in stone, or carved in wood, his idea of his God(s). Before long, he built an altar, then a hut, a hovel, a shrine and at last, a cathedral for these entities. Before these images he bowed and prayed, and at these shrines, he lavished his wealth, and sought eternal protection for himself and for the ones he loved.

And all throughout this evolution of gods and religions he made others believe as he did. The few took advantage of the ignorant many. They pretended or were deluded to have received messages from the Unknown or perhaps thought his Unknown entity made him some sort of liaison. They stood between the helpless multitude and the Gods. They were the carriers of flags of truce. They would intercede for them and upon the labor of the deceived believers that believed. And the rest of the story is as they say...history.
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I was wondering how and why did the question: Is there a God?, first come into the mind of humans? Was it in response to someone saying: "There is a God."? And if so, where did that person come up with it?

It seems that even the creatures that men have invented(in their minds) are based upon some strange combination of created matter that, in the natural world, no one has actually seen (unicorns, mermaids, fairies, etc.). Is God simply a name that we have given to explain human consciousness, or is there actually a God that is known through this consciousness and is the reason that we possess it(consciousness)?

It seems to me that in light of this mystery, religion does the best in explaining it; and that Christianity does so quite adequately. And if Christianity does have an explanation, why is it discounted as foolishness? Isn't it proper that God should give an explanation of creation to the creatures that are, for some reason, aware that they have a consciousness? Why is Christianity rejected simply because it does have answers? For my experience has been that if a non-Christian asks for a reason for something that is experienced in the world, or a question concerning the Christian faith, they reject the answer by claiming that the basis(the belief that there is a God) is questionable? Why in the heck would someone even ask the question, if they can't arrive at any understanding apart from the basic belief? And if they do temporarily accept the belief for arguments sake(I'm still suspicious that this is even possible in regards to the question of God), why at the point of explanation do they retreat to the rejection of the idea that they claim to have accepted for the sake of the argument?
No particular person thought up God. But there are a number of theories as to why people have the idea of God. One theory is the one proposed by the 17th century philosopher, Descartes. It is that God implanted the idea of Himself into Mankind. A different one is Sigmund Freud's. It is that the idea of God is a projection by Man of his own needs. A third one is by the sociologist, Emile Durkheim. It is that the idea of God has the function of unifying society. And there are several others.
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probably someone very long time ago when people didnt have a clue about anything,made up gods to explain the unknown.

its probably very hard to imagine for you now that people back then didnt know what air/wind was,for example.. it was a mystery thought to be spirits
www.atheists.org/Atheism/mind.html
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It seems to me that in light of this mystery, religion does the best in explaining it; and that Christianity does so quite adequately. And if Christianity does have an explanation, why is it discounted as foolishness?
b/c xian god is too contradictory to exist
www.evilbible.com/Impossible.htm
btw have you investigated all those other god beliefs,
which one is the right one??
www.godchecker.com
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Does christianity answer that question?
Yes, God revealed Himself to man; over and over agian.
no wonder we cant find him then,he must have been arrested for lewd behaviour!

seriously though what does it mean REVEALED himself,?
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