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If anyone's interested, there's a virtually identical <a href="http://iidb.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=44&t=000886" target="_blank">thread</a> in MD.
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Here's the book review I wrote for American Atheist Magazine:
The goal of psychological science is to make predictions about human behavior given a particular variable or variables. Through empirical research a scientist disregards insignificant variables while focusing on those variables which show correlational or causational strength. Vitz has held his Defective Father Theory for over ten years now. In that time he has not bothered to participate in any research to confirm his hypotheses. The book is an updated version of his search to explain the origins of Atheism in the realm of psychological theory. Serving as a perfect example of fools who profess themselves to be wise Vitz’s latest work is more like a last minute research paper written by a undergraduate suffering the pains of a hangover and nicotine withdrawal. The book is more of a collection of contradictions, bad science, grandiose claims, and overgeneralization. The unscholarly work is tantamount to anti-Atheist propaganda. Vitz explains the “why” of Atheism as being a product of numerous factors. First he explains Atheism in terms of a perverted perception of the Freudian Oedipus Complex. Freud’s Oedipus (widely discredited as unscientific) revolves around the male child’s sexual desire for the mother and hatred of the father as standing in the way of the child’s acquiring the object of his affection. Vitz takes the Oedipus and removes the motivation for ego development, the mother. Rather he says the focus of the Oedipus is the father, which is always generalized as God. It is the father of the Oedipus who the Atheist effectively destroys and replaces with himself. In other words the Atheist resolves the Oedipus (which would free Atheists from acquiring any defense mechanisms known as neuroses) and becomes God. However Vitz’s version is incomplete since there is no means for motivation, it fails to explain personality development as it relates to psychoanalytic theory, nor is it a credible explanation since it is grounded in the realm of untestable theory, void of scientific meaning. The second explanation of Atheism is what Vitz terms as the “Defective Father Theory.” This theory builds from Vitz’s Oedipus by declaring that Atheists are Atheists because they lose respect for their father. This disrespect can occur in a few ways. One, the parent is dead during the Atheist’s early childhood. This is interpreted by the child as a sign of rejection by the father so the father cannot be respected by the child. Another cause for Atheism is an abusive, neglectful or weak father, essentially any father who is less than perfect runs the risk of raising an Atheist child, and thusly all Christians are the result of good parenting. To support his theory he presents short biographies of a few select Atheists. Vitz defines an Atheist as anyone who does not believe in the Judeo-Christian god, the heavenly father. Therefore his evidence does not just include Atheists but Deists (like Voltaire), Wiccans (like Jill Johnston) and even Karl Marx (a Jew who converted to Protestantism) and Adolph Hitler, a Catholic. So the underlying thesis of Vitz’s work is anyone who is not a good, correct Jew or Christian is a product of a poor parental relationship. In an attempt to prove this he selects a number of notable Christians who he says are a product of proper parental upbringing. He refers to this group as his control group. A control group is unnecessary because control groups are needed for experimental situations to demonstrate the extent of change a group experiences with the manipulation of a variable. Vitz’s study contains neither. For women, with the exception of Madalyn Murray O’Hair, Vitz provides an alternate explanation since the Oedipus does not apply to women. Vitz claims that it is either a poor relationship with the father or the mother that causes unbelief. As a result of a poor relationship with either parent the daughter generalizes her disgust to all men, including God. As a result these women become feminists and Vitz claims feminists are lesbians because they need to fill their man void with the love of a woman. Vitz attempts to include Ayn Rand among his list of lesbian feminists. However, according to her biography, Rand was not a lesbian and she had a great admiration for men which was so evident in her novels. Vitz explains this contradiction by exclaiming that she created an ideal man who was not God therefore her Atheism is explained. However what Vitz misses is that everyone, male and female, has their ideal mate in mind. For men it may be Pamela Anderson, for women it may be Brad Pitt. Even a poor relationship with a parent is not enough to explain Atheism. Vitz includes his own autobiographical except of his brief experiment with Atheism as evidence. Although he does not mention his relationship with his parents he concludes that people chose Atheism for superficial reasons. These reasons are the desire to be an individual who wants to be a part of a group. That would essentially apply to every reason why any person, not just Atheists, has an identity. Either they want to be their own person, outside a group norm, or they want to fit into a group norm. The other reason Vitz gives for his Atheism is out of convenience. Atheists are just too lazy to give the commitment of time to be a proper Christian. Vitz entails not only what it takes to be an Atheist but what it takes to be a Christian. Vitz inadvertently declares that only Christians who regularly attend church (not just on Sunday), read their Bible regularly, and donate time to charitable activities. Vitz, not surprisingly, could not make this time commitment while working for his Ph.D. so he concluded that he was an Atheist, not because he did not believe in God. According to research conducted by Altmeyer and Hunsberger (Altmeyer & Hunsberger, 1997) people are most likely to become Atheists because they critically analyzed the issues in religion, and the answers to their questions provided by clergy and parents were unsatisfactory. In the conducted interviews none of the respondents brought up issues of a defective father, desire to be God, or the selfish reasons Vitz became an Atheist. This is not surprising since Vitz selected those Atheists at random which would satisfy his hypothesis. He did not, like Hunsberger and Altmeyer, gather Atheists at random and bother to ask them why they became an Atheist. Vitz behaves like a middle age witch hunter searching for any mark on a woman’s body so he can cry, “See I told you she was a witch!” Recognizing the weakness of relying solely on the Defective Father Theory by observing the biographies of such “Atheists” as Karl Marx and Denis Diderot who had good relationships with their father Vitz proposes another explanation, birth order. Vitz cites the research of Frank Sulloway where birth order was correlated with challenging beliefs held by parents. Marx and Diderot were not the first born and therefore that is a reasonable explanation for why they became Atheists. However he fails to apply this explanation to all his chosen Atheists and Christians, only those which were exceptions to his proposed defective father hypothesis. Even in his examples of Christians like Dietrich Bonhoeffer, who happened to be the sixth of eight children, Vitz’s alternative explanation does not appear to apply. It appears Vitz is just using birth order to fill in any gaps in his theories, but manages to succeed in producing more holes in his desperation to explain Atheism. Paul Vitz’s novel will appeal to those people who seek a secular confirmation of their disgust towards Atheists. The same groups who find creationism scientific will find Vitz’s psychoanalytic treatise scientific. Had Vitz bothered to test his theories empirically or open them up to peer review, or even look up the definition of Atheist in a dictionary he would have to abandon them in favor of searching for a reasonable explanation to Atheism. Yet for ten years Vitz actively avoiding participating in a professional, scientific manner informs the public that his true purpose for writing the book was simply to demean Atheists as a product of family or mental dysfunction. Reference: Altemery, B., & Hunsberger, B. (1997). Amazing Conversions: Why Some Turn to Faith & Other Abandon Religion. New York: Prometheus Books. |
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Thanks, DougI. A revealing article, and it solidified the opinion of Vitz's work I formed from listening to him.
Perhaps at the core of it is a desire to direct the "cause" of atheism to a sin source (weak or absent fathers - obviously a result of sinfulness in America!) rather than at a rational source - as you said, "because they critically analyzed the issues in religion, and the answers to their questions provided by clergy and parents [and I would add, through self-study and thought] were unsatisfactory." [ June 12, 2002: Message edited by: Mageth ]</p> |
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