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ohwilleke · 07-10-2002, 09:04 AM

Go Jobar! Somebody needs to stand up for what's right, and nobody will be able to say that you were silent when the time came to speak.

Chad · 07-10-2002, 12:59 PM

Jobar,

Congrats on being published. I'm flattered that you would include something I wrote in a letter that is very good on its own. Personally, I am getting so frustrated with the amount of ignorance, bigotry, and lies that this ruling has produced. I especially love it when people say that they will teach their kids to say under god anyway as if anyone said they could not.

Jobar · 07-10-2002, 07:15 PM

Errrrr... I must confess. I have been had.

I stated above that my friend told me all this- he was pulling my leg. He got my shoe, my pants, and left me with a scraped ass.

Oh, the letter was printed- on the letters page. And there was a box, in red, on the front top center, reading "ATHEISM AND POLITICS- see letters!"

No letter on the front page in red ink, though. However, I am sure it got read- because my mother called me mortified and angry. I kept my temper and told her she was free to write a letter saying that she and my Dad thought I was full of shit!

Buffman · 07-10-2002, 07:29 PM

Jobar

I don't know your Mom. I'm sue she is a nice and sincere lady. However, any mother who makes a special call to a child claiming that she is mortified and angry isn't concerned about that child. She is completely locked into her own narrow, little, world. She is concerned about what people will think about her...not you. I feel sure you already know this.

IMHO, if she could expend her world a little, she would have called worried about what problems you might encounter from your public statement, not how she was mortified by it.

B. H. Manners · 07-10-2002, 07:48 PM

I agree with Buffman 100%.

RufusAtticus · 07-10-2002, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jobar:
<strong>No letter on the front page in red ink, though. However, I am sure it got read- because my mother called me mortified and angry. I kept my temper and told her she was free to write a letter saying that she and my Dad thought I was full of shit!

</strong>

Keep us addressed of any other responses.

Mendeh · 07-11-2002, 07:45 AM

That is a really, really good letter! Congratulations!
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beachbum · 07-11-2002, 09:01 AM

Jobar rules!!! Great letter.

07-20-2002, 06:07 AM

Jobar: I have only just seen this thread, but feel I must post to congratulate you. Have there been any specific replies to your letter?

crazyfingers · 07-20-2002, 07:41 AM

Jobar,

Excellent letter!

I know what you mean about being nervous. When my paper called me for a quote on the day of the 9th's decision, I was nervous. (I had previously written a letter to the editor in which I identified myself as an atheist.) Anyway, they never used my quote and I was both disappointed and relieved at the same time. I was pretty nervous all night and the next day until I saw that I hadn't been quoted.

It�s not a good situation when you have to fear speaking up for what�s right.

[ July 20, 2002: Message edited by: crazyfingers ]</p>

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07-10-2002, 09:04 AM	#11
ohwilleke Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Denver, Colorado, USA Posts: 4,834	Go Jobar! Somebody needs to stand up for what's right, and nobody will be able to say that you were silent when the time came to speak.

07-10-2002, 12:59 PM	#12
Chad Regular Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Cedar Rapids, Iowa Posts: 110	Jobar, Congrats on being published. I'm flattered that you would include something I wrote in a letter that is very good on its own. Personally, I am getting so frustrated with the amount of ignorance, bigotry, and lies that this ruling has produced. I especially love it when people say that they will teach their kids to say under god anyway as if anyone said they could not.

07-10-2002, 07:15 PM	#13
Jobar Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: secularcafe.org Posts: 9,525	Errrrr... I must confess. I have been had. I stated above that my friend told me all this- he was pulling my leg. He got my shoe, my pants, and left me with a scraped ass. Oh, the letter was printed- on the letters page. And there was a box, in red, on the front top center, reading "ATHEISM AND POLITICS- see letters!" No letter on the front page in red ink, though. However, I am sure it got read- because my mother called me mortified and angry. I kept my temper and told her she was free to write a letter saying that she and my Dad thought I was full of shit!

07-10-2002, 07:29 PM	#14
Buffman Beloved Deceased Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: central Florida Posts: 3,546	Jobar I don't know your Mom. I'm sue she is a nice and sincere lady. However, any mother who makes a special call to a child claiming that she is mortified and angry isn't concerned about that child. She is completely locked into her own narrow, little, world. She is concerned about what people will think about her...not you. I feel sure you already know this. IMHO, if she could expend her world a little, she would have called worried about what problems you might encounter from your public statement, not how she was mortified by it.

07-10-2002, 07:48 PM	#15
B. H. Manners Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,213	I agree with Buffman 100%.

07-11-2002, 07:45 AM	#17
Mendeh Regular Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: London, England Posts: 302	That is a really, really good letter! Congratulations! <img src="graemlins/notworthy.gif" border="0" alt="[Not Worthy]" /> <img src="graemlins/notworthy.gif" border="0" alt="[Not Worthy]" /> <img src="graemlins/notworthy.gif" border="0" alt="[Not Worthy]" />

07-11-2002, 09:01 AM	#18
beachbum Beloved Deceased Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cocoa Beach, FL Posts: 864	Jobar rules!!! Great letter.

07-20-2002, 06:07 AM	#19
DMB Guest Posts: n/a	Jobar: I have only just seen this thread, but feel I must post to congratulate you. Have there been any specific replies to your letter?

07-20-2002, 07:41 AM	#20
crazyfingers Contributor Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 13,699	Jobar, Excellent letter! I know what you mean about being nervous. When my paper called me for a quote on the day of the 9th's decision, I was nervous. (I had previously written a letter to the editor in which I identified myself as an atheist.) Anyway, they never used my quote and I was both disappointed and relieved at the same time. I was pretty nervous all night and the next day until I saw that I hadn't been quoted. It�s not a good situation when you have to fear speaking up for what�s right. [ July 20, 2002: Message edited by: crazyfingers ]</p>

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