Calzaer

So you're assuming facts not in evidence?

yguy

Both are said to make sense to the "more open-minded than thou" crowd (membership in said crowd being determined by the most vocal advocates for each); and both, frankly, are weird - though obviously pedophilia is more than just weird.

What's wrong with weird? It tends to want to be seen as not weird at least - and perhaps even better than not weird. That means it demands acceptance from those who are not weird.

I think long-haired, maggot-infested, dope-smoking FM types are weird...but if such a person decides he no longer wants to play the weirdo, he can take a bath and get a haircut. If a transsexual thinks better of the transformation, he/she is rather up a creek without a paddle. I think it's a hideous tragedy that such surgery was ever considered for those who are physiologically normal.

yguy

Maybe I am. When I am presented with credible evidence to the contrary, I'll drop the assumption.

Philosoft

So, to sum up: transsexuality and pedophilia are analagous because both are "weird"? Seriously?
I'm having a bit of trouble accepting that you've got the prospective transsexual's best interests in mind when you say this. Honestly, I have no idea how many transsexuals wake up one day and decide they've made a big mistake. And of those, I have no idea how many are unable to cope with their mistakes, but I suspect it's a vanishingly small number. The upshot of your concern is that these few individuals are somehow representative of transsexuals in general. The ones who are satisfied with their sex-changes are, I guess delusional and those who are coping are, what, victims of a blind psychological community?

beth

I would posit that most who wake up one day and regret the change would have some sort of religious guilt at the root of it.

Daggah

...which happens to involve the violation of another human being's rights without their consent. So the similiarity is...what, exactly?

Daggah

Woops, I see yguy's idiocy there has already been addressed.

beth

I wonder, according to Christian theology, do people who are transgendered ever have a chance at redemption? They will always be an abomination in the eyes of God. So they are commiting sin continually, or, is it that they can just pray for forgiveness one and be done with it? Hmmm....

Mageth

Originally posted by yguy
Not the same. A BMW with all of its wheels on is obviously better than one with a missing wheel. The surgical proceedure in question is more comparable to remanufacturing the BMW into a Mercedes. What's the point?

Umm, if I recall, you brought this analogy to the table.

Rhaedas

Or more precisely, does god want them to be attracted to the opposite sex based on their genetic makeup or their physical makeup, if there's a conflict there? And what if they have both? Holy Automatic Damnation, Batman!