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Yahweh chose the Jews because they create Him. They wrote the book! If I had writen the book I would have been chosen.

Can you understand this, Tarnaak, or do I need more words?

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Actually, that's interesting. Chose the Jews for what? The Bible speaks of the Jews being predestined to what? God chose to create the Jews as a stiff necked people. Damned and dishonored from the beginning of time to eternal torture in the lake of fire with gnashing of teeth and everything. Isn't that exactly what we're talking about? Tarnaack is saying that these verses apply to the Jews.

So the Jews, god's chosen people , were predestined ie "chosen" to dishonor and damnation. Tarnaack, what is your definition of the word chosen? The gentiles. You know. The ones who disobeyed and rejected God's original covenants and laws outright. They were actually the elect. They were chosen from the beginning of time to be honored and shown mercy. Not the Jews. Now I understand it. The Jews were predestined to Hell from the beginning, and they've had their hearts hardened against God by God. So that's why they don't believe in Jesus.

Tarnaack, where does it say God predestined the Jews because he knew from the beginning of time they would be stiff necked? Which came first? The Jews rejecting God, or God hardening their hearts and creating them as a stiff necked people? Explain to us, even based upon your own personal walks with Jesus, how you are free to choose God when you are already predestined from the beginning of time to heart hardening, neck stiffening, dishonor, damnation, and eternal hell fire. Plus, the verses I've posted don't say anything about the Jews getting a choice at all.

"Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction."

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ARE SATAN AND GOD

THE SAME PERSON?

As we begin to think, free from guilt, and open to all inquiry, comes a very interesting possibility. Could it be that Satan and God are one in the same? Now that's enough to send our fundamentalist friends running for their stones isn't it.

But let's try to understand nature and its laws, understand mind and it's thoughts, understand life and its needs. Within that framework of thinking we will find a whole new world of possibilities.


First let's look at scripture for evidence. Numbers 21:8, God tells Moses to make a serpent and put it on a pole so that the people will be healed when they look at it. Moses obediently makes a serpent of brass.

2nd Kings 18:4, Hezekiah (who did what was right in the sight of God), broke the serpent of brass in obedience to God. Now remember, Hezekiah is receiving instructions to break the serpent of brass that God told Moses to make.




Let's look at something else interesting. 1 Chronicles 21:1 And Satan stood up and provoked David to number Israel. David did it and then repented for sinning against God.

2nd Samuel 24:1 The anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel and he told David, "Go number Israel". Interesting? Satan and God are speaking and giving the same directions to David, Same voice, same rules, Same person ?




One More

Job 1:6 The Sons of God appear before God and Satan is there. Satan is the only one that God talks to in this drama. He instructs him to test Job. He entrusts Satan with everything in the world that Job owns.

NOTICE: GOD DID NOT TRUST MINISTERS, OR PRIESTS, OR RABBIS, WITH EVERYTHING JOB OWNED, HE TRUSTED SATAN.




So what's it all about.

Satan is not a person. Satan is a necessary force that is negative but absolutely essential to sustain life. In electricity there must be a positive and a negative.

Without the negative there is no electricity and without electricity there is no light.

Helena Blavatsky : said this , " There is in matter a blind force which resists the will of creation. This blind force under Christian influence was transformed into Satan.



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MYTHOLOGY



Oh what we have missed by not paying attention to the strange minds who expressed the deep truth concerning life, the universe ,and eternity behind the coded messages of mythology. The very Bible that so many cherish and consider the actual word of God is beautiful mythology written by the strangers from a higher dimension that we understand as the Classic Greeks. Spend some time here and you will begin to unravel the mystery of the earth, the cosmos, and yourself.





AMEN

We say Amen at the end of our prayers. The Preacher says " Can I get an Amen ?".The Pastor says, "And everybody said Amen". Yet no one has a clue as to what the word means.

Now you say, Amen means "so be it". Not true. We stole the word from an ancient culture and changed it's meaning to suit our purpose. That's how we got most of our religious traditions.

Amen is the Egyptian God of life and reproduction, represented as a man with a ram's head. Amen, Amon, Ammon, and Atum are all the same. Amen-Ra, Amon-Ra, Atum-Ra, the Sun.



THE GODS OF WAR



If the God of the Christians and Jews, (Jehovah), takes away the land of the Arabs and gives it to the Jews, doesn't it make sense that the God of the Arabs, (Allah), is going to get it back.?

We always have a way of justifying our misbehavior don't we. What better way to explain our aggressions against others, "its Gods word", its Gods will.

The Old Testament is filled with admonitions from the God Jehovah to break down the walls of the city, pillage, loot, kill all the men, keep the virgins for yourself and on and on. The amazing thing is that to this very day, people flock to churches and admire the God who ordered the raping, looting, and pillaging. How can this be 7

Thus in actuality we do not have war between Arabs and Jews, we have confrontation between the two war Gods, Jehovah and Allah. The logic is so simple. If your God is going to take land away from me, my God is going to take it back.

That's what happened and that's whats happening. It has never stopped and in all honesty it never will until the war Gods are killed.

So how do we kill the war Gods. In meditation when we rise above thought we rise above the influences of the war Gods. At that point there is only one God and that God is God. That God is love. That God is peace.

OSIRIS

Osiris , the great God of Egypt who dwelled in the constellation Orion.

(Do you see ION there ?)

But what does Osiris mean to you ?.

The single eye, the Pineal Gland of the brain, the prime organ of meditation that brings forth melatonin.

If you look in your medical dictionary, the word OS means OPEN, the word IRIS means EYE.



JESUS AND ZEUS

JESUS IS ZEUS

That statement is enough to call forth the stoners to take aim, yet it is a provable fact. And if Jesus is indeed Zeus, then that opens to us the whole world of mythology in which to seek ,that we may find the secret of life itself. So let us look at the evidence, and you decide.

JESUS IS THE SUN GOD

This statement is proved by the Bible. In Revelation 3:14 , Jesus is speaking, and refers to himself as "the Amen".

Amen Ra is the name of an Egyptian Sun God. This is borne out in Matthew 2:15. The scripture states that Joseph took Jesus to Egypt to fulfill the prophecy, " out of Egypt have I called my son". In other discussions with you ,I have shown you how the life of Jesus duplicates the trajectory of the Sun in the sky.

Also the fact that in Greek, the name Jesus has the numerical value of 888, which is the number of the mythical Sun.

THE RAM HEAD SUN GOD

Amen Ra is a specific Egyptian Sun God. It is the Ram Head Sun God. The part that is interesting here is that the Ram Head Sun God, in Greece, is connected with Zeus. In the Bible, Jesus is the Lamb of God.

THE ZEUS-JESUS CONNECTION

Now that we have established a connection between Jesus, Amen Ra, and Zeus, let us look into the mythology of Greece and see some striking similarities.

JESUS TO EGYPT/ZEUS TO CRETE

When Jesus was born, the wicked King Herod was killing all the children because he was afraid that Jesus would overthrow his kingdom.

When Zeus was born, his wicked father Kronos was swallowing the newborns because he was afraid that Zeus was going to overthrow his kingdom.

Jesus was taken to Egypt to escape from Herod. Zeus was taken to Crete to escape from Kronos.



888

The New Testament was written in Greek. Jesus is a Greek word. In Greek each letter has a numerical value. In Greek the letters for the word Jesus add up to 888.

888 is the number for the mythical sun in Greek. Jesus and the symbol of the sun are one in the same.

In you it is the solar plexus energy which rises up the spine to the brain. There it must ascend to the right to open up the cells in the right hemisphere, that you may pass from the winter of your soul to the springtime.

It's curious . The Bible says no one could buy or sell without the mark of the beast and his number was 666.

Now many cannot call long distance without the mark of
the Christ and his number is 888.


He's baack .!


THE MEANING OF NUN

A woman who enters a religious order is called a Nun. Exodus 33:11 says Joshua was Son of Nun. Now this becomes very interesting as you look at a Christian Dictionary. The Christian Dictionary will simply say " Nothing is known of Nun other then the fact that he was father of Joshua.

In the " Dictionary of World Mythology", Nun is identified. " Nun comes from the primeval waters of Egyptian Mythology. The Egyptian Atum/Atom arose from Nun. Nun is the water God. First God. He is portrayed standing waist deep in water, his arms raised to support the sun."

Amazing isn't it. In the Bible the mythological God of Gods, is Nun. Listed as Joshuas father and namesake of the gentle female order of Nuns. Yet they have no idea.



JOSEPH CAMPBELL

FROM:MYTHS TO LIVE BY

In their intimate role of giving spiritual advice, the clergy have now been overtaken by the scientific psychiatrists and have indeed to such a degree that many clergymen are themselves turning to psychologists to be taught how best to serve their pastoral function. The magic of their own traditional symbols works no longer to heal but only to confuse.



THE TRAVELER

A traveler in ancient Greece was seeking the Holy Place, Mount Olympus. He came upon an old man seated by the side of the road. He asked, " Sir, how can I reach Mount Olympus". The old man who was Socrates looked at him deeply and said, " Just make every step you take go in that direction ".

So we must also find the Holy Place. No one can give us directions. We must simply enter within and it will find us.



THE STORY OF NARCISSUS

There was a handsome youth who was courted by many lovers for his beauty. He rejected them all . He did have one love, the Nymph Echo. The God's felt he was being too cruel and was too in love with himself.

So he was sent to Mt. Helicon to find himself. Day after day he lay beside the pool gazing lovingly at his reflection until he wasted away and died. When searchers went to look for him they found only a flower now called narcissus.

Echo also wasted away because of her love for Narcissus and she became a voice in the woods. The psychological condition known as narcissism is an obsession with ones own self. That of course is an illness but you see what we are trying to build here. It is contemplation or meditation on ones self that will cause one to reach the point of cosmic Passover.

The flesh became a flower. It passed over to a new realm because through meditation it had overcome the self. Such is Mt. Helicon, the Spiral, born of Pegasus the white horse, the hippocampus of the brain.

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Tarnaak

Ths is a great idea, Thanks!