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abe smith · 06-24-2002, 05:53 AM

BOOK for members here at Secweb who are turned-on by these matters; Alan Dershowitz's recent {2002] collection of papers {30 yrs or so worth} title *Shouting Fire*; if you're interested in Constitutional qqy; origin of human law; "natural" law vs positive law; Supreme Court decisions..... all that facinating stuff: this is a jolly old book for 4 a.m. Also discusses the OJ Simpson mess. Also, about being Jewish; and a Jewish agnostic lawyer..... His chapter 10 a legal science-fiction is worth your attention; a corollary to the crying baby smothered in the Warsaw Ghetto. If you've not seen this book yet, Stephen Maturin, I think you'll like it.

Stephen Maturin · 06-24-2002, 06:15 AM

Thanks for the tip, Abe! I'll check it out.

Toto · 06-24-2002, 11:38 AM

Order through Amazon and support the secular web:

<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0316181412/internetinfidelsA" target="_blank">Shouting Fire: Civil Liberties in a Turbulent Age</a> by Alan M. Dershowitz.

simian · 06-24-2002, 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by Howard:
<strong>Personally I can’t get too worked up over the T/C. In fact, I say let ’em hang the damn thing in every school, courtroom and public building in America. Then when people evaluate criteria such as student behavior/performance, crime, divorce and illegitimacy rates, and discover there has been no discernible improvement, we can have the final “I told you so.”

Xtians are determined to do this anyway, so we ought to let them and watch it not work.</strong>

Assuming there is no improvement, and they realize it, the response would be: "Think how much worse it would have been if we hadn't put them up." <img src="graemlins/banghead.gif" border="0" alt="[Bang Head]" />

Only a slight variation an anthropologist got when he asked a Central American native if his daily prayers were doing any good at stopping the multi-year drought (I think this was the natural disaster, but nearly any could fit in her). The native's response was "think how much worse it would be if I didn't pray every day."

Simian

The Other Michael · 06-24-2002, 02:24 PM

Hi Simian,

Obviously those Central American natives (from Ohio?) have been busy cribbing old vaudeville jokes, to whit:

At the theater the star of the play collapses on stage. The stage manager rushes out, and while the other players are trying to aid the star, addresses the house with the time honored request "is there a doctor in the house?".

From the peanut gallery comes a faint reply "give him an enema!".

The manager admonishes the person, saying that the star is really ill, and please, please there must be a doctor in the house.

Again from the back comes the cry, "give him an enema".

The manager, having had enough of this, shouts back "but sir, an enema won't do him any good!"

"But it wouldn't hurt!"

cheers,
Michael

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06-24-2002, 05:53 AM	#11
abe smith Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: springfield, MA. USA Posts: 2,482	BOOK for members here at Secweb who are turned-on by these matters; Alan Dershowitz's recent {2002] collection of papers {30 yrs or so worth} title Shouting Fire; if you're interested in Constitutional qqy; origin of human law; "natural" law vs positive law; Supreme Court decisions..... all that facinating stuff: this is a jolly old book for 4 a.m. Also discusses the OJ Simpson mess. Also, about being Jewish; and a Jewish agnostic lawyer..... His chapter 10 a legal science-fiction is worth your attention; a corollary to the crying baby smothered in the Warsaw Ghetto. If you've not seen this book yet, Stephen Maturin, I think you'll like it.

06-24-2002, 06:15 AM	#12
Stephen Maturin Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Broomfield, Colorado, USA Posts: 1,295	Thanks for the tip, Abe! I'll check it out.

06-24-2002, 11:38 AM	#13
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	Order through Amazon and support the secular web: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0316181412/internetinfidelsA" target="_blank">Shouting Fire: Civil Liberties in a Turbulent Age</a> by Alan M. Dershowitz.

06-24-2002, 02:24 PM	#15
The Other Michael Honorary Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: In the fog of San Francisco Posts: 12,631	Hi Simian, Obviously those Central American natives (from Ohio?) have been busy cribbing old vaudeville jokes, to whit: At the theater the star of the play collapses on stage. The stage manager rushes out, and while the other players are trying to aid the star, addresses the house with the time honored request "is there a doctor in the house?". From the peanut gallery comes a faint reply "give him an enema!". The manager admonishes the person, saying that the star is really ill, and please, please there must be a doctor in the house. Again from the back comes the cry, "give him an enema". The manager, having had enough of this, shouts back "but sir, an enema won't do him any good!" "But it wouldn't hurt!" cheers, Michael

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