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Jesus Tap-Dancin' Christ · 08-03-2003, 12:03 PM

Thanks for your support.

I really wish this shit just wouldn't happen at all--I don't WANT to feel like this at all, nor do I want to see any part of the future at all--the present is too much already, thank you very much.

Oh well, Tuesday I talk to psychologist...maybe I'll actually bring this up...

beoba · 08-03-2003, 08:21 PM

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Originally posted by Jesus Tap-Dancin' Christ
Periodically, I have these dreams. They aren't much--mostly about a random day in my life. A conversation fragment, a room filled with details, etc. Only these things haven't happened yet.

Occasionally happens to me, as well. Got a dream of physics lab a year before taking that class, another dream of the school that I went to (and three of the people in it) the summer before I went, etc.

I too at one time got these so often that it would freak me out if something particularly bad happened in a dream.

Arken · 08-03-2003, 09:10 PM

I've been having really freaky dreams lately, but of another sort. My dreams have recently had incredible continuity... i.e. my dream world has constants which are not the same as my waking world constants!

For example- in multiple dreams, the yard diagonal to my back yard has tons of wild animals in it- rhinoceri, ostriches, etc... the people who own it keep these animals for zoos who collect them at later dates. Only a fence separates my yard from theirs although their yard is a maze of fences but I'm perfectly safe. It's also never a big deal in the dream... I'll just look out the window and there's a giraffe walking by and I'll think, 'oh yeah... the neighbors are keeping animals for the zoo.' Some of the more mundane bits of continuity happen so often that I've actually caught myself being confused on occasion by their not being the case in the real world.

Thanatoast · 08-03-2003, 10:32 PM

Arken said:

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I'll just look out the window and there's a giraffe walking by

Reminds me of 12 Monkeys.

Shake · 08-04-2003, 05:10 AM

The only problem I see with the "write them down" option, is that you'd have to write every single dream down, and then trying to go back and find something that you dreamt about months (possibly years) later, would be exceptionally difficult and time-consuming. Also, as was said, the apparently prescient dreams seem to be of a mundane nature. I've had similar things happen ... just some random piece of conversation seems more than simply familiar, you knew who was going to say what and when. I tried to change the topic of a conversation once that I "knew" but my interjection merely delayed the later part which went off as I "remembered" it.

Better look behind the curtain for the new brick wall! "Deja vu is a glitch in the Matrix. It means they've changed something."

Shit. Edited to add that where I was going with my initial part of the post is that you might not even write down that part of the dream since it's so ordinary, a snippet of conversation that has no relevance to you until you experience it "again." Another possibility is that your mind is working overtime and playing out possible scenarios of an upcoming meeting you will have. You've got an idea who will be there and what will be discussed, so your brain runs through some ideas of what will be said. This doesn't explain it if you're meeting new people, though. I usually don't give it much thought. Just chalk it up to the brain being more complex than we will probably still realize for quite some time.

beth · 08-04-2003, 05:42 AM

I have these sort of dreams, too. Have most of my life. They used to bother me and then they convinced me of the paranormal.

When I started dating my husband, he took me home to meet his family. I walked into the scene with a pizza box on the counter, a fire going in the fireplace and his sister and friend sitting on the couch. It hit me. I had dreamt this months earlier. I had already met all of these people in my dreams.

There are many other things, but I know this dream was in fact real because I had discussed it with my mom the next morning, so even she remembered the description.

As I became more and more of a sceptic, I could not explain such dreams. Now I rationalize by thinking it was only a glitch in the Matrix.

LittleGuy · 08-08-2003, 07:25 AM

Just WHAT are dreams anyway? And what purposes do they serve?
Is it just random electrical activity in the brain? Why do we forget about them after a good nights sleep and remember them if we wake up in the middle of the night(ever get that feeling after you wake up in the morning that you had a distinctive dream but somehow you can't capture what was in it no matter how hard you try?)?

Anyone got links to a straightforward explanation?

john_v_h · 08-08-2003, 12:58 PM

A New Neurocognitive Theory of Dreams

The Scientific Study of Dreams

pariah · 08-08-2003, 01:06 PM

maybe its the electromagnetic field of earth affecting your brain. happens to some people b/c of that. just a thought.

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LittleGuy Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sydney,Australia Posts: 280	An Aside... Just WHAT are dreams anyway? And what purposes do they serve? Is it just random electrical activity in the brain? Why do we forget about them after a good nights sleep and remember them if we wake up in the middle of the night(ever get that feeling after you wake up in the morning that you had a distinctive dream but somehow you can't capture what was in it no matter how hard you try?)? Anyone got links to a straightforward explanation?

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08-03-2003, 12:03 PM	#11
Jesus Tap-Dancin' Christ Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Heaven Posts: 6,980	Thanks for your support. I really wish this shit just wouldn't happen at all--I don't WANT to feel like this at all, nor do I want to see any part of the future at all--the present is too much already, thank you very much. Oh well, Tuesday I talk to psychologist...maybe I'll actually bring this up...

08-03-2003, 09:10 PM	#13
Arken Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: North Hollywood, CA Posts: 6,303	I've been having really freaky dreams lately, but of another sort. My dreams have recently had incredible continuity... i.e. my dream world has constants which are not the same as my waking world constants! For example- in multiple dreams, the yard diagonal to my back yard has tons of wild animals in it- rhinoceri, ostriches, etc... the people who own it keep these animals for zoos who collect them at later dates. Only a fence separates my yard from theirs although their yard is a maze of fences but I'm perfectly safe. It's also never a big deal in the dream... I'll just look out the window and there's a giraffe walking by and I'll think, 'oh yeah... the neighbors are keeping animals for the zoo.' Some of the more mundane bits of continuity happen so often that I've actually caught myself being confused on occasion by their not being the case in the real world.

08-04-2003, 05:10 AM	#15
Shake Contributor Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Folding@Home in upstate NY Posts: 14,394	The only problem I see with the "write them down" option, is that you'd have to write every single dream down, and then trying to go back and find something that you dreamt about months (possibly years) later, would be exceptionally difficult and time-consuming. Also, as was said, the apparently prescient dreams seem to be of a mundane nature. I've had similar things happen ... just some random piece of conversation seems more than simply familiar, you knew who was going to say what and when. I tried to change the topic of a conversation once that I "knew" but my interjection merely delayed the later part which went off as I "remembered" it. Better look behind the curtain for the new brick wall! "Deja vu is a glitch in the Matrix. It means they've changed something." Shit. Edited to add that where I was going with my initial part of the post is that you might not even write down that part of the dream since it's so ordinary, a snippet of conversation that has no relevance to you until you experience it "again." Another possibility is that your mind is working overtime and playing out possible scenarios of an upcoming meeting you will have. You've got an idea who will be there and what will be discussed, so your brain runs through some ideas of what will be said. This doesn't explain it if you're meeting new people, though. I usually don't give it much thought. Just chalk it up to the brain being more complex than we will probably still realize for quite some time.

08-04-2003, 05:42 AM	#16
beth Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: where orange blossoms bloom... Posts: 1,802	I have these sort of dreams, too. Have most of my life. They used to bother me and then they convinced me of the paranormal. When I started dating my husband, he took me home to meet his family. I walked into the scene with a pizza box on the counter, a fire going in the fireplace and his sister and friend sitting on the couch. It hit me. I had dreamt this months earlier. I had already met all of these people in my dreams. There are many other things, but I know this dream was in fact real because I had discussed it with my mom the next morning, so even she remembered the description. As I became more and more of a sceptic, I could not explain such dreams. Now I rationalize by thinking it was only a glitch in the Matrix.

08-08-2003, 12:58 PM	#18
john_v_h Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,760	A New Neurocognitive Theory of Dreams The Scientific Study of Dreams

08-08-2003, 01:06 PM	#19
pariah Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: الرياض Posts: 6,456	maybe its the electromagnetic field of earth affecting your brain. happens to some people b/c of that. just a thought.

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