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Not Prince Hamlet · 06-30-2002, 06:52 PM

God knocked off 14,700 Jews in Numbers 16:44-49, by the way.

bonduca · 06-30-2002, 06:53 PM

More evasions, Media-1?

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Not Prince Hamlet · 06-30-2002, 06:54 PM

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Originally posted by Media-1:


I suggest you look at Romans 6, the whole chapter. Paul really says it much better than I could.

Media-1

That much is clear.

Jeff

Not Prince Hamlet · 06-30-2002, 06:55 PM

OOh, here's one of my favorites:

200 Philistine men, to obtain their foreskins, in order to buy a bride. (1 Samuel 18:27)

I wonder what the buying power of 200 Philistine foreskins is today?

Jeff

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rebelnerd · 06-30-2002, 06:56 PM

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Originally posted by Media-1:


All I'm getting is personal attack and evasion. If no one is willing to answer my question about what, specifically the woman did that was morally wrong, and why it was wrong, then I'll just assume that you are all evading my questions.

How's this from a previous page:

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M1 -
For you, and atheists in general, there is the luxury of getting morally pissed off without any morally valid REASON for being pissed off. If this woman did something that is morally wrong, what was it, and why was it morally wrong?

Filo -
Leaving her kids to fry in the car was wrong. If I have to explain why it was morally wrong to you, you are either baiting me or have serious value issues.

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In case I haven't been clear as to why I consider human life to be more precious than ant life, it is because God created mankind in His own image.

That's totally profound, wow I don't know what to say now.

<img src="graemlins/boohoo.gif" border="0" alt="[Boo Hoo]" />

Filo

Not Prince Hamlet · 06-30-2002, 06:57 PM

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In case I haven't been clear as to why I consider human life to be more precious than ant life, it is because God created mankind in His own image.

By the way, where does it say in the Bible that human life is more precious than ant life?

Jeff

Media-1 · 06-30-2002, 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by Not Prince Hamlet:


"And then, you admitted that you'd have problems doing everything your psychotic god told you to do, thereby admitting a difference in morality between you and your alleged God.

If you're reluctant to do something your own god tells you to do, and it's not out of fear for your own life, then it must be because your moral code differs from God's.

And for you to HAVE a code that differs from God's proves that it is possible to have a moral code WITHOUT a God.

Therefore, it is possible for we atheists to have moral codes as well."

The "difference" isn't so much in my moral code itself; it has more to do with my own morally flawed nature and how that often defeats my best attempts at trying to live up to God's commands. Nice try, though.

Media-1

bonduca · 06-30-2002, 07:02 PM

edited as NPH has said it better.

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Not Prince Hamlet · 06-30-2002, 07:04 PM

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Originally posted by Media-1:


The "difference" isn't so much in my moral code itself; it has more to do with my own morally flawed nature and how that often defeats my best attempts at trying to live up to God's commands. Nice try, though.

Media-1

It's more than a nice try. You just admitted in your very own words that you have a "moral code". You may claim that it's inferior to God's (though I daresay you never told anybody to kill someone for his foreskin), but you've admitted you have one.

Thank you very much for admitting such. You've just shot your own argument smack dab in the foot.

Jeff

Not Prince Hamlet · 06-30-2002, 07:08 PM

By the way, where does it say in the Bible that human life is more precious than ant life?

Jeff

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Not Prince Hamlet Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 1,309	OOh, here's one of my favorites: 200 Philistine men, to obtain their foreskins, in order to buy a bride. (1 Samuel 18:27) I wonder what the buying power of 200 Philistine foreskins is today? Jeff [ June 30, 2002: Message edited by: Not Prince Hamlet ]</p>

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