virtual-guru

Hello!

Sorry,I did not know you're so pure living! Hope you're vegetarian,as this is also war against millions of other entities for the pleasure of your tongue! You don't have to make war youself,only by paying tax,you are participating in all the government's killings.

I think I have explained enough before that all spirittual matters are not visible to the naked eye,but we have the symptoms of life.As soon as life (or soul ) goes from the body,it decomposes.But you don't seem to want to understand.
Let's compare like a driver in a car. As soon as the driver leaves the car,it will stay there rotting!You are the driver of your machine,as the body is just a machine. The eyes,perfect camera,the heart: a perfect pump etc,the brains a perfect computer.,but who is looking through these eyes? Who's using the computer? This is the question!!!

Is that not evidence? You may think the universe is going on by itself,you're free to think this way. Our small brains cannot grasp the greatness of so huge a creation,and pride makes you reject of a superior intelligence overlooking the whole matter.

The problem is for most westerners, is that they have been cheated so much by christianity or islam that they are allergic to seking God. So much literature is available now from the East,but still ,you won't study. It's a pity! Just to come to this planet,live like an animal and leave without knowing your destiny.

If you just want to discuss for discussion's sake,then I'm wasting my time, and so let me take leave in the hope that you'll make further studies at:




krishna

Corona688

I do understand what you're saying, I simply don't agree with it. I don't see how the fact that people can die implies that we have a soul. False analogy, I am not a vehicle.

It seems more like a painting; a canvas, while not the painting itself, serves as the foundation for a painting. As the canvas decays, the painting decays with it. The brain is the "canvas" for thought, so to speak.

This explains a great many things that a seperate soul/body dichtomy cannot. If the soul is seperate, why can physically damaging the brain impair one's mental ability? An eternal nonphysical soul obviously wouldn't be damaged.

If the soul is seperate, why do drugs that affect neurotransmitters alter our thought processes? An eternal nonphysical soul obviously wouldn't be affected.

You see what I mean? It's not that I am rejecting the idea out of hand, I have given it considerable thought. It simply does not fit the facts. The brain is not a computer, it doesn't even resemble one, and a computer is not a brain. They do vastly different things and behave in vastly different ways. No. You need to learn more about computers and brains and the differences betwixt them. You are seriously contradicting yourself here. Our small brains cannot grasp the greatness of so huge a creation? You would have us believe the brain doesn't do anything but house a soul. We cannot grasp it? Then what makes you so sure that you know what you think you do? I haven't rejected the idea. I simply see no evidence for it at this time. You seem to think there are only two answers, 'yes' or 'no', but there is a third: "I Don't Know". At this point in time, I don't know if there is a god, or a soul, or anything supernatural, and having never seen any evidence for them, it would be arrogant of me to presume they exist. I don't consider this "prideful", I consider it "honest". What about those in the West that never believed in the first place, and hence were never cheated? So far all you have asked me to do is take your word that everything you say is true. Even if YOU think what you say is true, there's the old adage "Saying so won't make it so". That website just wants to sell me a lot of books of someone else's opinions on what he believes to be true.

I don't want someone else's predigested opinions.
I don't want pretty corrolary and metaphor alluding to nothing and building on nothing.
I want to see things myself, test things myself, and think things through myself. That means needing facts.

So. What would you have me read? Honestly, what?

virtual-guru

As I said,the Vedas is not written by these terrorists,who were the christians and muslims. When someone create,say a computer,or a software,he must give the methods of using it.
So the vedas is "how to use this material world as intelligently as posible,how to use this body,so as to make it an instrument pleasing to God.

Those,in the name of freedom,who are putting alcool in their blood,eating meat for food,creating hellish factories for work,putting poison on crops,enginering plants to make more and more profit,creating unemployment for the mass of people,polluting rivers and sea,creating new diseases,prostitute houses,killing babies in the womb,inventing crazy "scientific" theories,creating wars for profit etc,do not know how to be in harmony with nature,but the sages who have studied the vedas,know the laws of God, and can direct society for the pleasure of God and also of the whole population.This has been proved in the past when pious kings ruled the earth with justice. The stories of such kings are found in the vedas,as well as the numerous incarnations of God on earth.Modern history is full of lies,concealing the existence of great civilisations millions of years ago.A devotee is currently working on this subject,Drutakarma ,at mcremo.com.Have a look!

Hare Krishna!

Aravnah Ornan

The evidence for the Vedas is in the Vedas. Well, isn't that convenient. I trust you're aware that people of other religions say that the evidence for the Qur'an is in the Qur'an, the evidence for the New Testament is in the New Testament, etc.

Lots of holy books have stories of "pious kings" who "ruled the earth with justice." Give me one good reason why I should believe yours and not the others.

If your holy faith has timeless answers, why does your answer on this issue change completely every single time you raise the subject?

Corona688

**crumble**

Hear that? That's your credibility.

Aravnah Ornan

Like the ones that allowed people to design the computer that you're using? Or did the pious kings who ruled the earth with justice in Vedic times have computers and the Internet, too?

virtual-guru

Hello!

I can see that you haven't read much!
Civilisation is not what these archeologists say.
Much greater civilisations have existed in the past,and if you know anything about yoga,which allows people to get mystic powers,like to know exactly when you will die or what body(of animal)you will get!Right now you can go to India and get such revelations!But you tend to think The West is so advanced. It's actually a complete chaos!Ready to explode in nuclear warfare at any time....

RE internet such yogis can read you minds and send messages to other planets....

They can also travel without any motor car to thousands of miles away and even to other planets....

How about that?

FoE

I'm still a little confused here. Was David Koresh the last prophet or was it L Ron Hubbard?

virtual-guru

don't know these people!

Aravnah Ornan

Then I can see that you haven't read much.