Toto

I know you are talking about your feelings and not actually advocating violence, but please watch your language. Fantasies about rounding up Christians for a shoot are fantasies, but not a guide to real action, and might just inspire the Christians to round you up.

When you reduce things to force, you will find that there are people with more guns than you have, and you are likely to lose.

Democracy doesn't work very well. The US, your former colonial power, now has an unelected president who is eroding our constitutional protections. But it still works better than the alternative.

Intellectuals in particular have fantasies of violence. But look at the political history of the US in the 60's. The Weatherpeople and other revolutionaries-in-their-own-minds ended up not doing any good for themselves or others.

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Writer@Large

Toto makes a very good point.

Further discussion about rounding up and shooting Xians (or *anyone*) will be edited without warning. The last thing we need is to give people like John Ashncroft *any* rope to hang us with, regardless of how hypothetical.

--W@L

Secular Pinoy

I am pretty aware of the level of religiosity in our Country. I read somewhere that we're the second in church attendance worldwide. I have seen the crowds by El Shaddai, and since I live near Commonwealth Avenue, I have seen the sheer number of INC members.

But last time I checked, nonchristians aren't being dragged into the churches and baptized at gunpoint. Nor have I seen any direct attack by christian groups on nonchristians. It has always been a christian vs christian affair. We are virtually a christian nation. We have no effective separation of church and state, and about 95% of the population are christian.

Christians are trying to convert other christians to their respective sects. Leave them be. Why? Because I have met several former christians who grew disillusioned with the infighting between christian groups. They are their own worst enemies.

I'm not saying this because I'm apathetic (though I admit I am), but because all these challenges to living as an atheist in the Philippines are overblown. I am pretty happy and content with my life. I have a Catholic GF that supports my atheism, and sometimes seeks my counsel in religious matters. I have friends that respect my right to hold opposing beliefs, even though they may disagree with them.

And contrary to most appearances, there are quite a lot of liberal christians here. They may disagree with you on the existence of god, but they will readily agree with you on moral relativism, the bible stories as myths, the excesses of the churches, and even on skeptical matters.