Tuffa Nuff

Nuwanda, go have a look at ...

http://www.whydoesgodhateamputees.com/

Malintent

Please don't come back with the "God cannot be tested" crap.

YOU and your fellow Church-Goers would never approach this act of kindness towards your fellow man as a test for god. The prayers would not be a test. It not being a test of any kind should allow some of these good people the grace of Gods healing. Show us his grace so that we can be saved.

Nuwanda

Wow... I just don't know what to say... I've believed in God, I've seen miracles and healings with my own eyes, I've personally seen hundreds of people's lives changed through the power of God, fathers and mothers who've learned to love their spouse more, children more, escape drugs and alcohol addictions, hate, unforgiveness, adultury, theft, and untold stories of heroism, courage, and love. But then, I visited this website and I was overcome with the power of the accusation. I'm a changed man. If God won't act when I tell Him to and do what I tell Him to then to hell with the whole bit.

He's not my monkey anymore!

Biff the unclean

Do you find people laugh at you when you pull such childish evasions?

David B

Just come up with one miracle and/or healing that stands up to sceptical examination.

As far as the escaping drugs etc goes, there are the same sort of claims for converts to Islam, Transcendental Meditation, Scientology et al. That one doesn't fly at all. People become changed - just sometimes - by adopting a religion irrespective of what the (often mutually contradictory) religion is.

ETA let us not forget those people who strongly espouse christianity, with every appearence of sincerity, whose live are not, as a matter of fact, changed for the better.

Haggard is the most recent of the big name ones to have been exposed as a hypocrite. Not to suggest that all those who espouse Christianity are hypocrites.

David B

Biff the unclean

It seems to me that, dealing with an eternal unchanging God, that people changing would be evidence against such a deity.

Nuwanda

No, I think you've actually stuck my foot in your mouth. You read into my term "tacked to nature" incorrectly (note: I said it was a quick response). Nearly every Greek god is known by their special, as you say, "realm of influence." Once science was able to answer for the mysterious workings of nature, the "god" answer was not necessary. The Greek god worship never actually disappeared, hanger-ons smuggled them in disguise into Catholicism. The book to read is "Black Athena" by Martin Bernal. Anyway, nothing you said invalidated what I said. I think you disagree more with what you think I mean rather than taking the time to think through the things I actually write.

GenesisNemesis

Nuwanda, is there any way any of us can observe a "mass healing"? Why does it seem so secretive? If you direct me to this guy, I'll be very pleased.

Nuwanda

I have no idea what this is suppose to mean. Are believers suppose to be changed into perfect, unchanging, little gods once they believe in the unchanging God? Please clarify.

Nuwanda

People already have observed such things. The gospels are full of accounts of every kind of healing you can imagine, accounts that were testified to by hundreds and possibly thousands of witnesses (at times).

But, you've already discredited those witnesses, why do you ask for more? So you can discredit them as well?

I believe you will get to see for yourself something like a "mass healing" or at least a mass witnessing. Most Christians believe that day is fast approaching. Read Revelation for more info.