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Mageth · 08-16-2002, 08:27 AM

So we should expect to see these giants out and about busily browsing in our forests, correct? How could they afford to hide if they're so busy eating? And shouldn't we expect to find heavily browsed groves of trees, as well as copious amounts of gorilla-like dung?

And BTW, elk, deer and moose will all, to various degrees, browse on leaves and twigs, esp. in winter.

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Corwin · 08-16-2002, 08:43 AM

Deer, Elk, Moose, and other ruminants have other sources of food besides foliage. They also feed on berries and grasses and other plants that are found in abundance. They'll eat leaves, but it isn't their primary source of food.

We also aren't talking about huge communities of giganto up here. We're also talking about areas that are incredibly isolated. Yes, the rockies are pretty sparsely populated... campgrounds exist, but they're few and far between.

Blinn · 08-16-2002, 08:55 AM

<a href="http://www.bfro.net" target="_blank">The Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization</a> has answers to many <a href="http://www.bfro.net/gdb/show_FAQ.asp?id=405" target="_blank">FAQs</a> about wood apes. Here's some information about <a href="http://www.bfro.net/gdb/show_FAQ.asp?id=586" target="_blank">Diet and Digestion</a>:

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The sasquatch is an omnivore with a substantial carnivorous component to its diet. They have been observed directly to eat leaves, berries, fruits, roots, aquatic plants and other vegetable matter, catch fish, dig up clams or ground squirrels, and prey on poultry, deer, elk and bear. In addition, they eat other odd items, such as young evergreen shoots, crayfish, road kill, meat or fish from human storage sites, hunter-killed game animals (these sometimes snatched in front of the hunter), and occasional garbage. They take an occasional livestock animal, but not with sufficient frequency as to produce organized persecution.

They appear to kill large prey animals by a blow with the fist, rock or stick or by twisting their necks, sometimes to the point of decapitation. Liver and other internal organs are their first targets. The remaining meat is sometimes stored on the ground under a haphazard shelter of sticks or lifted into tree forks above ground. No compelling evidence exists that they store food in any substantial way beyond this; only rarely has a sasquatch been observed carrying a fish some distance from its origin, or a deer, presumably into hiding.

Caloric requirements per gram of living matter decrease as a function of total mass of the animal. Nonetheless, the nutritional needs of an average sasquatch can be calculated to amount to about 5,000 calories per day. This amount can only be fulfilled by rather constant searching for food and especially by intermittent predation. Sasquatches have been seen both with substantial girth as well as looking decidedly skinny.

Drinking has been observed by small animals dipping their faces into the water, while adults commonly drink out of a cupped hand, or resort to a cupped leaf or a dry, hollow stem of a weed.

Their feces are sausage-shaped, up to 4" inches in diameter and up to three feet long, forming a folded heap. They are replete with numerous intestinal parasites, including hook worms, as well as small bones, hair of prey and ample vegetal matter. A sasquatch has been observed to wipe itself with its hand and lick its fingers briefly, a decidedly simian gesture.

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Corwin · 08-16-2002, 09:00 AM

Ummmmm.... yeah.

Anyway.... moving right along....

Mageth · 08-16-2002, 10:38 AM

Deer, Elk, Moose, and other ruminants have other sources of food besides foliage. They also feed on berries and grasses and other plants that are found in abundance. They'll eat leaves, but it isn't their primary source of food.

Did I say otherwise? However, in the winter, browsing leaves and twigs from trees and bushes often is their primary source of food in some regions.

And where are the collected samples of all this massive 3-foot-long scat?

Corwin · 08-16-2002, 10:45 AM

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And where are the collected samples of all this massive 3-foot-long scat?

Hell if I know.... I've never heard of an actual anthropologist that actually claimed to have found anything current. You're sort of asking a SETI researcher where all the abandoned alien technology is....

Mageth · 08-16-2002, 10:58 AM

Yeah, being asked for physical evidence is a real bitch. People shouldn't do that, I suppose.

Vibr8gKiwi · 08-16-2002, 11:08 AM

Isn't there a camping game where you give the younger kids bags and tell them to go out at night and try to catch "sneeches" by sitting with the bag open and whistling? The kids sit around whistling in the dark for a while (which is funny enough), but when they come back some tell stories of sneeches that got away.

"Sasquatch" people are like the kids with the sneech-that-got-away stories.

Mageth · 08-16-2002, 11:10 AM

We called that a snipe hunt. Sneeches works better, because there actually are snipes (a type of bird).

Vibr8gKiwi · 08-16-2002, 11:17 AM

Oh right, snipe is right. I think sneech is a Dr. Suess thing.

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08-16-2002, 08:27 AM	#21
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	So we should expect to see these giants out and about busily browsing in our forests, correct? How could they afford to hide if they're so busy eating? And shouldn't we expect to find heavily browsed groves of trees, as well as copious amounts of gorilla-like dung? And BTW, elk, deer and moose will all, to various degrees, browse on leaves and twigs, esp. in winter. [ August 16, 2002: Message edited by: Mageth ]</p>

08-16-2002, 08:43 AM	#22
Corwin Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 4,369	Deer, Elk, Moose, and other ruminants have other sources of food besides foliage. They also feed on berries and grasses and other plants that are found in abundance. They'll eat leaves, but it isn't their primary source of food. We also aren't talking about huge communities of giganto up here. We're also talking about areas that are incredibly isolated. Yes, the rockies are pretty sparsely populated... campgrounds exist, but they're few and far between.

08-16-2002, 09:00 AM	#24
Corwin Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 4,369	Ummmmm.... yeah. Anyway.... moving right along....

08-16-2002, 10:38 AM	#25
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	Deer, Elk, Moose, and other ruminants have other sources of food besides foliage. They also feed on berries and grasses and other plants that are found in abundance. They'll eat leaves, but it isn't their primary source of food. Did I say otherwise? However, in the winter, browsing leaves and twigs from trees and bushes often is their primary source of food in some regions. And where are the collected samples of all this massive 3-foot-long scat?

08-16-2002, 10:58 AM	#27
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	Yeah, being asked for physical evidence is a real bitch. People shouldn't do that, I suppose.

08-16-2002, 11:08 AM	#28
Vibr8gKiwi Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: CA, USA Posts: 543	Isn't there a camping game where you give the younger kids bags and tell them to go out at night and try to catch "sneeches" by sitting with the bag open and whistling? The kids sit around whistling in the dark for a while (which is funny enough), but when they come back some tell stories of sneeches that got away. "Sasquatch" people are like the kids with the sneech-that-got-away stories.

08-16-2002, 11:10 AM	#29
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	We called that a snipe hunt. Sneeches works better, because there actually are snipes (a type of bird).

08-16-2002, 11:17 AM	#30
Vibr8gKiwi Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: CA, USA Posts: 543	Oh right, snipe is right. I think sneech is a Dr. Suess thing.

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