yguy

Very well, I apologize to brettc for accusing him of fabricating the quote. As for his character, his other posts on this thread speak volumes.

SimplyAtheistic

Well, to keep things on track, please respond to my entire post and with something that actually has meaning to the debate. Thanks in advance.
Jake

yguy

I did. Too meaningful for your taste, obviously.

Jinto

You have not responded to JakeJohnson's post. Please do not lie.

In an effort to get things back on track, I have to ask emotional how he can live with the idea that he's never going to die. I mean... living forever, never being able to leave the cares of life behind, never coming to an end... it sounds pretty scary. But then, I guess that emotional just doesn't choose his beliefs because of fear. (note sarcasm)

BadBadBad

The quotes are the real deal, and that's why emotional is taking so much discussion. No apologies necessary. I take as well as I give.

BadBadBad

I was saying that the other day. I'd rather be dead. It's comforting for me to know that life isn't going to go on. There are no uncertainties. There's nothing on the other side of the door. Once it closes, you're dead. Lights out. It's not a fact, but it sounds better than singing all day worshipping "God." Anything I want like RBAC says? What like a holodeck movie on star trek, but I'm one of the holodeck images?

Imagine your body is gone but science keeps your brain alive for eternity. You're imagination can run wild, but just in a dream state. Like as in a coma. No, not for me. Pull the plug. Lights out. Goodbye. It's been a nice life.

yguy

I did, and I did not lie. The point of contention is whether death is something to be feared. It is precisely BECAUSE my post answers that question that you have a problem with it. Pressed by the reality of death up close and personal, your glib hypotheses are revealed to have less substance than a bad romance novel.

Apathist

You take it wrong. I notice you don't ask a question.

And faith doesn't involve a whole lot of rational thinking. You seem to prejudge faith as unjustifiable - not very sporting. Also, you seem to justify, say, terrorism, if the terrorists have a logical enough reason for their acts.

I would say that logical arguments may be justified by logical reasoning - perhaps that's what you mean.

No, it is not. I notice you supply no reasons for your claim.

I notice you provide no support. Why would you pass up the opportunity to clarify your points and your reasons?

triplew00t

Wow. 50 posts, just from me asking for the beliefs of Emotional. And as far as his beliefs go, I sympathize. I have often returned to theism even thought I didnt believe it simply for the comfort of life after death. I am a hypochondriac, so this fear hounds me day and night. But when I think about it, eternity of existing endlessly seems just as bad. I would eventually run out of things to do. I dont know, I constantly vacillate. I can simply see where Emotional is coming from.

-Nero

emotional

I'd leave the boards, but there are two problems:

1. I'm addicted to them. I have no life outside them.

2. I haven't found any boards where a sizable fraction of posters share my beliefs. Here most are atheists, on Theologyweb most are Christians. Both atheists and Christians are against my beliefs (to put it an understatement).

As for my quote saying it's all make-believe, I take it back. When I said that, I thought I could somehow let my rational self dominate again and go back to atheism, but I was wrong. I could not do myself what professionals have failed to do for me - curing the fear of death. I therefore stick to my beliefs again.

I really want to leave the boards, but I don't see how to do it. I need an alternative place where like-minded people abound. I haven't found such a place. And I can't do without discussion boards, because that's all the life I have. I don't have any social life in real life.

Look, I know I've made it to "Fundies Say The Darndest Things" with flying colours, but don't look at me that way. I'm an otherwise rational, scientific and thinking person who just can't accept that death is the end of all. Some people have fear of heights and therefore avoid standing at high places; I have a fear of death and therefore avoid believing it is the end of all.