debater10

No. That is not what I am saying at ALL. What I am saying is that if, in the enforcement of international law, those who are delegated to enforce it do nothing (i.e. France and Germany) and actively try to prevent someone from remedying the situation, then yes... the rule of the international body should be ignored. If I saw a someone breaking the law, causing incredible harm to those around him, while a police officer stood by and did nothing, then yes, I would take action. Even if, in the situation, it would be illegal for me to do so. That is the analogy I believe you were searching for.

And I would like to point out that it is because of international law that we got involved in Vietnam. Absent our obligations to SEATO, we would not have gotten involved. There is your precious international law in action...

Ion

Did you notice a pattern in Bush's discussions too?

Between buckaroos like you two, there should be a common pattern.

debater10

I actually thought about this one for a while. Answered above.

Ion

buckaroo, how come that 150 countries, don't agree with this:
Like Sweden, I quoted above.

buckaroo, are you here?

buckaroo?

debater10

Do you notice yourself not making sense? I'm just wondering because I would only hope that if I was as incoherent as you, that I would notice it. I only hope your ignorance is willful.

And I just think it needs to be said: Where one lives in no way, shape, or form decides what one believs. According to your philosophy, the South would have had full justification for slavery because they believed African-Americans to be Sub-human and therefore lacking intelligance.

Ion

And I dismissed.

Still buckaroo, are you?

Ion

No.

I notice myself not supporting a war for oil.

Unlike buckaroos like you and Bush.

debater10

It was not the choice of America to deny Sweden a UNSC veto. As a country, Sweden should have the same rights as every other one. I fail to see what this has to do with US action, but I can agree with you that countries should have equal freedom to take action.

debater10

I can't believe this. You are still trying to argue that Iraq is about oil? Are you seriously that dense? I could bring back all teh evidence that says other wise and you could bring back, well, your incoherency really because you provided no evidence... but that will not get us anywhere.

And by the way, I can't tell you how proud I am that I taught you a new word like buckaroo. I always like sheding light on those who insist on staying in the dark.

Ion

OK, buckaroos, now read the quote I printed from Sweden, stating that when one country acts alone to war, it abuses the international community.

That's what buckaroo Bush did to Iraq, for oil.