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nogods4me · 02-10-2003, 10:52 AM

Well the obvious antidote to the Beamer book would be The Autobiography of Malcolm X, I also think there's a bio of M. Murray O'hair around someplace.

Sakpo · 02-10-2003, 10:58 AM

Well why not just say Muslims? I know Christian and atheist Arabs.

August Spies · 02-10-2003, 11:05 AM

Ecco Hommo by Nietszche... your teacher should enjoy that.

Id also second the Autobiography of Malcom X.

August Spies · 02-10-2003, 11:10 AM

This autobiography was pretty amazing as well.

christ-on-a-stick · 02-10-2003, 11:13 AM

Sakpo, point taken - I specified Muslim Arabs in my post but I really meant just Muslims.

philechat · 02-10-2003, 11:34 AM

Malcolm X will be a good choice.

What about "The First Man" by Albert Camus? It is his unfinished autobiographical novel, and it touches many aspects of his own life.

Monkeybot · 02-10-2003, 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by nogods4me
Well the obvious antidote to the Beamer book would be The Autobiography of Malcolm X, I also think there's a bio of M. Murray O'hair around someplace.

You know, the minute I read the OP, I thought of Malcolm X.

That's who gets my vote, unless you wisely decide to drop the course.

Bree · 02-10-2003, 12:09 PM

I'm sorry Sakpo, I should have been a little more clear in my second post. I too meant "Muslim Arabs" when I said "Arabs" which kind of buried all Arabs under my sweeping stereotype. All Arabs are not immediately Muslims by default; I should have not made such a generalisation.

I find it very interesting that Lisa Beamer says she's glad her husband died, because he was a True Believer. She said in an interview that having a True Believer die was much more preferable to having a non-believer die, simply because God could have more time to work in that non-believer's life. This 30-second TV tidbit was enough to make me not want to buy her book, nor waste my time reading it for a class.

Is the Malcom X book the one written by Alex Haley, of Roots fame? Or is there another?

GreggLD1 · 02-10-2003, 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by Bree
Go figure - the "textbook" for one of my classes is Lisa Beamer's book Let's Roll based on her husband's experience as a hero on one of the flights hijacked on 9/11. I have told my professor I downright refuse to purchase this book and support this golddigging, sacchrine-sweet Christian woman. I also told her I refuse to borrow it from the library to read it.

Well, she somewhat sarcastically said I could read any book that was a biography about a great leader, and that outlined his/her leadership qualities at a "post-secondary" level (as if Lisa Beamer's book is post-secondary, LOL). I need recommendations - my professor's recommendation was Oprah Winfrey's autobiography. I don't think so.

Any suggestions?

(Tongue firmly in cheek) How about "She Said Yes: The Unlikely Martyrdom of Cassie Bernall" ?

Gregg

Bree · 02-10-2003, 12:54 PM

Keep the suggestions coming - I just got an email that said I needed to prepare TWO essays on TWO books, since neither of her mighty tomes interested me

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02-10-2003, 10:52 AM	#11
nogods4me Contributor Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Posts: 17,432	Well the obvious antidote to the Beamer book would be The Autobiography of Malcolm X, I also think there's a bio of M. Murray O'hair around someplace.

02-10-2003, 10:58 AM	#12
Sakpo Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Pacific Northwest (illegally occupied indigenous l Posts: 7,716	Well why not just say Muslims? I know Christian and atheist Arabs.

02-10-2003, 11:05 AM	#13
August Spies Contributor Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: The Vine Posts: 12,950	Ecco Hommo by Nietszche... your teacher should enjoy that. Id also second the Autobiography of Malcom X.

02-10-2003, 11:10 AM	#14
August Spies Contributor Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: The Vine Posts: 12,950	This autobiography was pretty amazing as well.

02-10-2003, 11:13 AM	#15
christ-on-a-stick Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Durango, Colorado Posts: 7,116	Sakpo, point taken - I specified Muslim Arabs in my post but I really meant just Muslims.

02-10-2003, 11:34 AM	#16
philechat Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Mind of the Other Posts: 886	Malcolm X will be a good choice. What about "The First Man" by Albert Camus? It is his unfinished autobiographical novel, and it touches many aspects of his own life.

02-10-2003, 12:09 PM	#18
Bree Veteran Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Twin Cities, USA Posts: 3,197	I'm sorry Sakpo, I should have been a little more clear in my second post. I too meant "Muslim Arabs" when I said "Arabs" which kind of buried all Arabs under my sweeping stereotype. All Arabs are not immediately Muslims by default; I should have not made such a generalisation. I find it very interesting that Lisa Beamer says she's glad her husband died, because he was a True Believer. She said in an interview that having a True Believer die was much more preferable to having a non-believer die, simply because God could have more time to work in that non-believer's life. This 30-second TV tidbit was enough to make me not want to buy her book, nor waste my time reading it for a class. Is the Malcom X book the one written by Alex Haley, of Roots fame? Or is there another?

02-10-2003, 12:54 PM	#20
Bree Veteran Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Twin Cities, USA Posts: 3,197	Keep the suggestions coming - I just got an email that said I needed to prepare TWO essays on TWO books, since neither of her mighty tomes interested me .

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