Tarnaak

So you do believe that God exsists????

Goliath

Tarnaak,

I do not believe that any gods exist, and I do not believe that no gods exist.

Pay attention: I hold no beliefs whatsoever regarding the existence or nonexistence of any god of any kind!

Sincerely,

Goliath

Tarnaak

ok, wait a minute, you either do or don't believe in the exsistance of God?

Tenek

I believe that he's saying that he neither believes in God nor believes in no God, i.e. he doesn't know and won't pretend he does.

Proctors_Gambit

Not meaning to be insensitive QoS, but does anyone else note the irony that a christian receiving chemotherapy would have the audacity to tell an athiest that THEY will be punished before they die.
It certainly looks like God has a little 'in life' punishment up his sleeve for Christians too.
How could your 'punishment' be much worse than the treatment your mother has to go through?

-Gambit

seebs

He doesn't. But then, he doesn't believe in the nonexistance, either.

I do not believe in a major league baseball player named John Smith. I do not believe that there isn't one, either. It's a fairly common name. It is possible that such a person exists; it's possible that one doesn't. I have absolutely no idea.

Goliath

Tarnaak,

I do not believe that any gods exist, and I do not believe that no gods exist. My set of beliefs regarding the existence or nonexistence of any supernatural being is the empty set.

I really don't know how to make this any simpler.

Sincerely,

Goliath

Queen of Swords

Originally posted by Proctors_Gambit
Not meaning to be insensitive QoS, but does anyone else note the irony that a christian receiving chemotherapy would have the audacity to tell an athiest that THEY will be punished before they die.

I had the feeling that both my parents were repeating things someone else had told them. They are not vindictive people, and if God had descended to earth with a taser in one hand and a pair of pliers in the other, to mete out the aforementioned punishment to me, I don't think my mother would have sat back and said, "Well, there you go, I told you so." I think she would have hit him with her IV stand.

What I would like to know is from where they got the idea of God's vengeance towards atheists who answer questions set to them by Christians who later deconvert. My parents aren't the type to think this up by themselves, so I wonder if their pastor might have told them this. I doubt I'll ever know, though.

wade-w

Tarnaak, Goliath, et al:

Please don't de-rail this thread by having yet another argument over the definition of atheism.

Tarnaak

I am not trying to derail anything. I am just trying to understand how Goliath can have an "empty" set of beliefs. I would have to take this as an "I don't care" either way, which would in all actuality mean that he does not believe in the exsistance of God.

Anyone who has an opinion, has a belief to back that opinion. I'm just saying that having an empty set of beliefs is not possible. Perhaps what is meant is that Goliath has not decided yet on this issue...

If you like wade-w, you could move this to it's own thread.